Gun owners 'outed' in NY

RACER X · 12-28-2012, 11:39 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blog...opstories.html

A newspaper in New York has received a wave of criticism from its readers after publishing the names and addresses of all of the individuals with handgun or pistol permits in its coverage area.

Hundreds of residents in New York's Westchester and Rockland counties were surprised to find their names and addresses listed on a map posted by The Journal News on Sunday. Users can click any dot on the map to see which of their neighbors has a permit for a gun.

The map sparked more than 500 comments from readers within a day of its appearance on the website, many of them voicing outrage at the paper's decision to make the information public.

"This is CRAZY!! why in the world would you post every licensed gun owner information?? What do you hope to accomplish by doing this. This is the type of thing you do for sex offenders not law abiding gun owners. What next? should i hang a flag outside my house that says I own a gun? I am canceling my subscription with your paper today!!!" said commenter Curtis Maenza.

"How about a map of the editorial staff and publishers of Gannett and Journal News with names and addresses of their families…," wrote commenter George Thompson.

All of the names and addresses were compiled through public records. The paper also requested the information from Putnam County, which is still compiling the records for publication, according to The Journal News' website.

In a statement to ABC News, The Journal News said its readers "are understandably interested to know about guns in their neighborhoods," because of the conversation about gun control on its website after the shooting in Newtown, Conn., last week.

"We obtained the names and addresses of Westchester and Rockland residents who are licensed to own handguns through routine Freedom of Information law requests. We also requested information on the number and types of guns owned by permit holders, but officials in the county clerks offices in Westchester, Rockland and Putnam counties maintained that those specifics were not public record," the statement read.

"New York's top public-records expert, Robert Freeman, disagrees," it added.

The paper declined to answer further questions about the map.

Twobanger · 12-28-2012, 01:18 PM

Someone has already outed everyone that works for the newspaper in retaliation. At least one of the gun owners outed was a woman who was in hiding from a violent ex.

Dave · 12-28-2012, 02:10 PM

Talk about an invitation for robbery. I'd sue the fuck out of them

dubbs · 12-28-2012, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Talk about an invitation for robbery. I'd sue the fuck out of them

I would think the opposite.. Ok, this is who we DON'T rob..

OneSickPsycho · 12-28-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Twobanger

Someone has already outed everyone that works for the newspaper in retaliation. At least one of the gun owners outed was a woman who was in hiding from a violent ex.

Totally fucked up...

MikeSP1 · 12-28-2012, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Twobanger

Someone has already outed everyone that works for the newspaper in retaliation. At least one of the gun owners outed was a woman who was in hiding from a violent ex.

Definitely no cool. I know, the understatement of the week. Hope she doesn't pay for it the hard way.

Particle Man · 12-29-2012, 08:41 AM

Totally fucking ridiculous. Grrr

MikeSP1 · 12-29-2012, 08:58 PM

And by the way, someone ought to lose their job for that. I don't care how extreme the paper is intended to be or if the information is public record, pointing fingers at people who are within their rights ain't gravy.

Papa_Complex · 12-30-2012, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dubbs

I would think the opposite.. Ok, this is who we DON'T rob..

Or it's a shopping list for the places that you rob when people are at work, to try and collect every gun you might ever want. It's a bloody irresponsible thing for a media outlet to do.

dubbs · 12-30-2012, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Or it's a shopping list for the places that you rob when people are at work, to try and collect every gun you might ever want. It's a bloody irresponsible thing for a media outlet to do.

I definitely don't agree with what they did, but they didn't post what type of gun and how many they had, so I fail to see how it could be a shopping list for thieves.

12-28-2012, 11:39 AM	#1
RACER X AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Richmond, Tx Moto: '10 Tuono Factory Posts: 4,569	Gun owners 'outed' in NY http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blog...opstories.html A newspaper in New York has received a wave of criticism from its readers after publishing the names and addresses of all of the individuals with handgun or pistol permits in its coverage area. Hundreds of residents in New York's Westchester and Rockland counties were surprised to find their names and addresses listed on a map posted by The Journal News on Sunday. Users can click any dot on the map to see which of their neighbors has a permit for a gun. The map sparked more than 500 comments from readers within a day of its appearance on the website, many of them voicing outrage at the paper's decision to make the information public. "This is CRAZY!! why in the world would you post every licensed gun owner information?? What do you hope to accomplish by doing this. This is the type of thing you do for sex offenders not law abiding gun owners. What next? should i hang a flag outside my house that says I own a gun? I am canceling my subscription with your paper today!!!" said commenter Curtis Maenza. "How about a map of the editorial staff and publishers of Gannett and Journal News with names and addresses of their families…," wrote commenter George Thompson. All of the names and addresses were compiled through public records. The paper also requested the information from Putnam County, which is still compiling the records for publication, according to The Journal News' website. In a statement to ABC News, The Journal News said its readers "are understandably interested to know about guns in their neighborhoods," because of the conversation about gun control on its website after the shooting in Newtown, Conn., last week. "We obtained the names and addresses of Westchester and Rockland residents who are licensed to own handguns through routine Freedom of Information law requests. We also requested information on the number and types of guns owned by permit holders, but officials in the county clerks offices in Westchester, Rockland and Putnam counties maintained that those specifics were not public record," the statement read. "New York's top public-records expert, Robert Freeman, disagrees," it added. The paper declined to answer further questions about the map. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ 2014 GROM! 181cc of FURY 2010 Aprilia Tuono Factory - SOLD 2009 SFV Gladius - SOLD 2008 Hayabusa - SOLD.

12-28-2012, 02:10 PM	#3
Dave Chaotic Neutral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Moto: GV1200 Madura, Hawk gt Posts: 13,992	Talk about an invitation for robbery. I'd sue the fuck out of them __________________ TWF Post whore #6

12-29-2012, 08:41 AM	#7
Particle Man Custom User Title Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Central NY Moto: 2003 SV650S Posts: 14,959	Totally fucking ridiculous. Grrr __________________ I'm not "fat." I'm "Enlarged to show texture." Handle every stressful situation like a DOG: If you can't eat it or hump it, pi$$ on it & walk away.

12-29-2012, 08:58 PM	#8
MikeSP1 Perpetual trouble Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: at the base of the Alps Moto: VTX 1300C, RC51, CBR600RR, CBR929RR Posts: 715	And by the way, someone ought to lose their job for that. I don't care how extreme the paper is intended to be or if the information is public record, pointing fingers at people who are within their rights ain't gravy. __________________ "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well preserved piece, but to skid across the line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, shouting GERONIMO!"

12-28-2012, 01:18 PM	#2
Twobanger Canyon Carver Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 252	Someone has already outed everyone that works for the newspaper in retaliation. At least one of the gun owners outed was a woman who was in hiding from a violent ex.