your states licensing requirements

[RACER X]

so TX just made MSF mandatory to get a M license (started 9/1), no way around it.

whats ya'lls states procedure?

is mandatory MSF good or bad?

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by RACER X

so TX just made MSF mandatory to get a M license (started 9/1), no way around it.

whats ya'lls states procedure?

is mandatory MSF good or bad?

I think it's good but in NY you have to do figure 8's and stuff anyhow.

If I had a dollar for every bike out there where the person has no "M" endoresment though... it won't really matter one way or the other in those cases.

It's still too easy to get a bike off the floor without any licensing (not even a permit).

[BobTheBiker]

MSF became mandatory here not long before I got my license. I think its an excellent thing, as new riders are learning how to ride right before they can even put tags on their bikes.

I'd like a tiered licensing system though.

[Trip]

Don't really care, seen people pass MSF without much effort that couldn't ride so there you go...

There is still a test out option here.

[RACER X]

Originally Posted by Trip

Don't really care, seen people pass MSF without much effort that couldn't ride so there you go...

There is still a test out option here.

you think the state test is harder then the msf test? riding part

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by Trip

Don't really care, seen people pass MSF without much effort that couldn't ride so there you go...

There is still a test out option here.

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This..

It is a good thing to get some confidence and the basics down, but it doesn't teach anybody to ride aside from in a parking lot..

[wildchild]

msf is a useful tool is someone doesn't have another way to learn to ride BUT a few days of class and less then 10 miles of range time to get a license will not make you a better rider.

our's here require MSF if you are under 18 and getting a motorcycle endorsement.

for those who want tiered, why? do you think my 1600cc harley is faster or harder to control then a 600cc sportbike? people need to accept personal responsibility for what they drive. licensing only ensures you have a very basic understanding of the controls of a vehicle of one style or another. if you can understand the controls of a 250 rebel you can also drive a triumph rocket. doesn't mean you can handle it in any emergency situation but you can control it.

[RACER X]

Originally Posted by Tmall

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This..

It is a good thing to get some confidence and the basics down, but it doesn't teach anybody to ride aside from in a parking lot..

ok, but is a state test gonna be harder or easier then a motorcycle specific test.

down here, i've heard of people having to make 4 stop & turns and the state test is done? is that sufficient enough?

MSF, your tested on braking, cornering, swerving, bike control.......


i'm pretty sure we call agree it should be harder, but it is what it is.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by RACER X

you think the state test is harder then the msf test? riding part

Depends on who tests you, I have heard of people just making a pass in the parking lot and showing the instructor they can go in a straight line and turn around and then I have heard of people getting full on MSF test.

[buzzcutt2]

MSF is required in FL