Great, another US war - Page 9

fatbuckRTO · 03-31-2011, 05:55 PM

I love how the administration and the news are making such a huge deal about NATO taking over command of the air operations. Since when has a military operation being run by NATO meant the US actually takes a lesser role? Historically all it has meant is that US troops no longer get to answer to a US chain-of-command.

Brilliant!

tallywacker · 04-04-2011, 10:15 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClGCS4OeqVM

Must watch video, he really tells that CNN bitch whats up at the end. Finally some truth about the situation.

Papa_Complex · 04-05-2011, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by fatbuckRTO

I love how the administration and the news are making such a huge deal about NATO taking over command of the air operations. Since when has a military operation being run by NATO meant the US actually takes a lesser role? Historically all it has meant is that US troops no longer get to answer to a US chain-of-command.

Brilliant!

In this case it means that they answer to a Canadian.

Papa_Complex · 04-05-2011, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tallywacker

Must watch video, he really tells that CNN bitch whats up at the end. Finally some truth about the situation.

I would have to say that using the word "bankrupt" is definitely over stating the case. An unnecessary expenditure? Absolutely.

pauldun170 · 04-05-2011, 01:32 PM

Meh

If you are going to get a spook to come on network news at least get the entertaining ones....not the grumpy old "I got this email forward and it made me so mad!!" types.

Like this one for example...
http://gawker.com/#!5788918/woman-wh...sane-cia-agent

Papa_Complex · 04-05-2011, 01:45 PM

The CIA has seriously gone downhill. Since The Bloc fell, the Russians have been doing far better at creating marketable spies.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...r-secrets.html

KSGregman · 04-05-2011, 01:57 PM

This isn't even the HALF of it.....Michael Scheur is NOT a reactionary or stupid man....read his books.

Start with this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Imperial-Hubri...2022243&sr=1-3

This is his latest:

http://www.amazon.com/Osama-Bin-Lade...2022315&sr=1-1

He understands the mess we have created for ourselves in the Islamic world in ways that our "leaders" are not willing to discuss publicly. If more Americans would pay attention to people like him and less attention to Dancing with the Stars or American Idol we'd ALL be better off for it.....stop being distracted and seduced by the "bread and circus" constantly being fed to us and WAKE UP.

pauldun170 · 04-05-2011, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KSGregman

This isn't even the HALF of it.....Michael Scheur is NOT a reactionary or stupid man....read his books.

Start with this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Imperial-Hubri...2022243&sr=1-3

This is his latest:

http://www.amazon.com/Osama-Bin-Lade...2022315&sr=1-1

He understands the mess we have created for ourselves in the Islamic world in ways that our "leaders" are not willing to discuss publicly. If more Americans would pay attention to people like him and less attention to Dancing with the Stars or American Idol we'd ALL be better off for it.....stop being distracted and seduced by the "bread and circus" constantly being fed to us and WAKE UP.

The problem with Michael Scheur, is that despite his expertise on the subject of the middle east...he has a problem of keeping his personal opinion on things unrelated to the middle east in check.

Example: "The Chinese are very close to producing a suitable homegrown engine for their J-11 aircraft but have suffered major setbacks due to production issues in Waohang province...which recently experienced political unrest. It is expected that in 5 years time, they will have overcome quality issues experienced in the first production batch and will field 12 examples within striking distance of Taiwan. To bad we will be unable to do anything about it because of these damn Mexicans keep crossing the border and collecting our social security. Maybe if Obama would just show us a birth certificate and grow some balls we wouldn't have to worry but instead we'll just sell the whole country to china to pay off our debt."

Writing good books? Happy cats...
Old man go off on a rant during an interview? Disappointing...

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Michael Scheur:"The only chance we have as a country right now is for Osama bin Laden to deploy and detonate a major weapon in the United States"

Writing a thought provoking book doesn't make you a winner nor does it mean that everything that comes out of your mouth should be taken as some sort of gospel.

KSGregman · 04-05-2011, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170

Writing a thought provoking book doesn't make you a winner nor does it mean that everything that comes out of your mouth should be taken as some sort of gospel.

I don't disagree....I'm just pointing out that he has, and has had, many more informed things to say than those portrayed in that 6 minutes.

pauldun170 · 04-05-2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KSGregman

I don't disagree....I'm just pointing out that he has, and has had, many more informed things to say than those portrayed in that 6 minutes.

I believe that his problem is that his friends have rubbed off on him too much.
That sort of thing becomes an issue as you grow older and your ability to think critically starts to go (if you start slacking on that skill).

5 years from now hes going to be sending out email forwards of how gangs are finding victims by driving around without their headlights on.

In his field of expertise, I'm sure that he's got his crap together on the things that were true when he formulated his belief on the subject.

03-31-2011, 05:55 PM	#81
fatbuckRTO This is not the sig line. Join Date: Dec 2008 Moto: Be prepared. What? Oh, moto... Posts: 1,279	I love how the administration and the news are making such a huge deal about NATO taking over command of the air operations. Since when has a military operation being run by NATO meant the US actually takes a lesser role? Historically all it has meant is that US troops no longer get to answer to a US chain-of-command. Brilliant! __________________ This was no time for half measures. He was a captain, godsdammit. An officer. Things like this didn't present a problem for an officer. Officers had a tried and tested way of solving problems like this. It was called a sergeant. -Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!

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tallywacker Virtual Machine Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: PA Moto: 2010 Ducati Hypermotard Posts: 1,698	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClGCS4OeqVM Must watch video, he really tells that CNN bitch whats up at the end. Finally some truth about the situation. __________________

04-05-2011, 01:45 PM	#86
Papa_Complex Nomadic Tribesman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Brampton, Canada Moto: '09 ER-6n Posts: 11,150	The CIA has seriously gone downhill. Since The Bloc fell, the Russians have been doing far better at creating marketable spies. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...r-secrets.html __________________ "Everything's better with pirates." - Lodge, "Dorkness Rising" http://www.morallyambiguous.net/

04-05-2011, 01:57 PM	#87
KSGregman Get Fit...or Get OUT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: KS Moto: 07 M109-R Posts: 1,993	This isn't even the HALF of it.....Michael Scheur is NOT a reactionary or stupid man....read his books. Start with this one: http://www.amazon.com/Imperial-Hubri...2022243&sr=1-3 This is his latest: http://www.amazon.com/Osama-Bin-Lade...2022315&sr=1-1 He understands the mess we have created for ourselves in the Islamic world in ways that our "leaders" are not willing to discuss publicly. If more Americans would pay attention to people like him and less attention to Dancing with the Stars or American Idol we'd ALL be better off for it.....stop being distracted and seduced by the "bread and circus" constantly being fed to us and WAKE UP.