Suck on that Toyota

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

Well no shit it wasn't just the rust.

The letter they sent me stated the frame could crack BEACASE of the rust. They did replace thousands of trucks, with no Government pushing.

Fuck dude, they must have combed through a shit ton of DMV registration records, to even find me in the first place. I bought it used from a private party, and never once went to a dealership for service.

Explain that.

JC

They use R.L. Polk vehicle registration data to locate current owners. Every vehicle that is registered is stored in a database containing current customer information which can be given legally (the OEMs have to pay for the data though) without customer consent barring a safety related issue.

Most likely someone filed a complaint on the frame (or an accident occured/lawsuit etc.) and NTSHA was notified. Then, the issue was monitored for other occurences. If the number of occurences exceeded some threshold, then NTSHA will force Toyota to perform a recall. Again I can assure you the company was forced to replace or buy out your vehicle. Don't be fooled.

You want to know when a company takes care of you? Buy a vehicle with a 3/36 and then have something break at 45k (not emission or safety related). If the OEM pays for some of the labor or parts, then they are taking care of you. I can bet Toyota would tell you to go pound sand.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Homeslice
The only problem with Explorers was that the owners manual only specified like 25 psi or something low like that, and on top of that, most drivers don't bother checking, so a lot of them probably dropped to 20 psi or less. Combine soft, mushy tires with Blonde female drivers putting on makeup while talking on the phone, and see what happens.....

Fixed again.

[RACER X]

Originally Posted by Cutty72

Yeah, Ford blamed Firestone, Firestone blamed the Explorer. I had an explorer with Firestone tires and it was fine. I blamed the idiot drivers.

Originally Posted by Particle Man

I had 2 explorers, both of which came with Firestones and I drove them until they were almost bald and then replaced then (with Goodyear tires becuse I prefer the ride on their RT/S tires) and never had a single problem.

i sold tires in the early mid 90's, i sold so many NTB said i was the top salesman in the country (sent me on a 1 wk cruise to the caribean) anyways i saw more delaminated firestones then any other tire make at that time, and mostly on exploders.

was it the tire's fault entirely........i doubt it, but it sure didn't help.

it was a combo of stupid drivers, bad veh design and poor tires

stupid drivers thinking they were driving cars vs SUVs, and not realizing a higher COG
stupid drivers not knowing the air pressures and where they shoulda been
stupid drivers driving around w/ delaminating tires and ignoring the problem, and only taking care of it when a tire "sepreated" and tore up the car w/ the flapping tire skin...

even had an Texas A&M scientist come to my shop w/ a court order to try on all sorts of tire sizes so he could measure the ride height of a sport exploder w/ diff. tires.

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

Most likely someone filed a complaint on the frame (or an accident occured/lawsuit etc.) and NTSHA was notified. Then, the issue was monitored for other occurences. If the number of occurences exceeded some threshold, then NTSHA will force Toyota to perform a recall. Again I can assure you the company was forced to replace or buy out your vehicle. Don't be fooled.

I searched for a NTSHA recall number for a 2001 Toyota Tacoma, that related to any frame issues.

Couldn't find one. If you can find one, let me know.

It's obvious that any car maker would seek to limit damages from possible law suits, but in the case of my truck, it seems they were not "forced" by anyone.

Prove me wrong, GM boy.

JC

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Cutty72

Yeah, Ford blamed Firestone, Firestone blamed the Explorer. I had an explorer with Firestone tires and it was fine. I blamed the idiot drivers.

So do I. Unfortunately instead of using this issue as an example to demonstrate to those idiot drivers that tire pressure needs to be checked occasionally, the nanny state government kindly decided to mandate I pay for a Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) in any 2008 or newer car. I already have a doubly redundant TPMS. Stage one is my eyes. If I see a fucking tire is low I put air in it. Stage two is a fucking pressure gauge in my glove box that I occasionally use to check the actual pressure. The Government hard at work.

[ceo012384]

An extremely rare occurrence that people are making much ado about nothing... BFD. Just because someone wasn't smart enough to put their car in neutral when it accelerated. It's interesting to see the government involve themselves, as if this has nothing to do with their support (financial) of the american automakers? pwahahahaha right.

I also don't understand why people seem to be wishing ill of toyota, seeing as how they build many vehicles here in the states from non-union labor (as opposed to american companies building their shit in canada and mexico)

I love GMC owners calling me unamerican... yeah nice canadian truck, dumbass.

[Cutty72]

Originally Posted by goof2

So do I. Unfortunately instead of using this issue as an example to demonstrate to those idiot drivers that tire pressure needs to be checked occasionally, the nanny state government kindly decided to mandate I pay for a Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) in any 2008 or newer car. I already have a doubly redundant TPMS. Stage one is my eyes. If I see a fucking tire is low I put air in it. Stage two is a fucking pressure gauge in my glove box that I occasionally use to check the actual pressure. The Government hard at work.

TPMS do one thing and one thing only. Make money for dealerships.
I worked at one, and there are a LOT of people that come in every day thinking it's the end of the world cause their display says "check tire pressure" because they are off a pound or two, and they have no idea what to do.
It's absolutely hilarious in the winter when the light is on when they start the vehicle, but is off by the time they get to the dealership because they warmed up and the pressure is where it should be

Originally Posted by ceo, the flaky whore

I also don't understand why people seem to be wishing ill of toyota, seeing as how they build many vehicles here in the states from non-union labor (as opposed to american companies building their shit in canada and mexico)

I love GMC owners calling me unamerican... yeah nice canadian truck, dumbass.

With toyota, sure the $18/hr is going to the American everyday joe, but the end profits are going overseas.

With Ford, sure $3/hr is going to Mexico, but the end profits are staying here in the US.

There are differences, we just see them differently.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

I searched for a NTSHA recall number for a 2001 Toyota Tacoma, that related to any frame issues.

Couldn't find one. If you can find one, let me know.

It's obvious that any car maker would seek to limit damages from possible law suits, but in the case of my truck, it seems they were not "forced" by anyone.

Prove me wrong, GM boy.

JC

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/08/n...rame-rust-cla/

NHTSA does not produce the recall...Toyota does, but they are pressured by NHTSA to do so. So, the 1.5 times the value was something they most likely did to alleviate consumers from suing becuase they had put more money into the vehicle or had extra equipment added on. Bad press is....well bad press.

Again...it was only when NHTSA investigated the Tundra frame issues that Toyota began to back the Tacomas...but I'm sure there was some pressure.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by goof2

So do I. Unfortunately instead of using this issue as an example to demonstrate to those idiot drivers that tire pressure needs to be checked occasionally, the nanny state government kindly decided to mandate I pay for a Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) in any 2008 or newer car. I already have a doubly redundant TPMS. Stage one is my eyes. If I see a fucking tire is low I put air in it. Stage two is a fucking pressure gauge in my glove box that I occasionally use to check the actual pressure. The Government hard at work.

The system also saves fuel....and alot of it if you add up all the vehicles with the system in operation.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by ceo, the flaky whore

....I also don't understand why people seem to be wishing ill of toyota, seeing as how they build many vehicles here in the states from non-union labor (as opposed to american companies building their shit in canada and mexico)

I love GMC owners calling me unamerican... yeah nice canadian truck, dumbass.

It's simple....more jobs HERE if everyone bought GM, Ford and Chysler.