4 Door Sedans With Manual Transmission

[Gas Man]

Originally Posted by Cutty72

4 doors with a stick:

Mazda 6 or 3 (feels cheap inside, but Speed3 is pretty quick)
Ford Focus (great cars, the ST is sweet)
Most Subaru's (you ruled out)
VW's (great, but always seem to be lacking in power, hence why they have audi)
most Kia's (like kia stlye and they seem decent inside, my bud has an Optima and it's super nice)

I'm sure there are more, but that's what I can think of.

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Originally Posted by LeeNetworX

Damn you, Cadillac. Why did you have to offer the 6-speed manual on the ATS ONLY mated to the 2.0 Turbo?

I have to say, I'm liking the looks and specs of this car. Not sure what the wife would think, tho.

Originally Posted by Homeslice

A 4-cyl in a Cadillac?

Can't stand this crap about the 2.0 in the Caddy. This is the same POS 2.0 I had in my HHR SS and the same one in the old Cobalt SS. The same ones they had tons of problems with. And the MPG isn't that great so don't get too excited.

Originally Posted by LeeNetworX

Wouldn't be the first - remember the old Cimarrons? I think those were rebadged Cavaliers.

They've come a long way since then and this 4 is a 272hp.

Still craptastic.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

Can't stand this crap about the 2.0 in the Caddy. This is the same POS 2.0 I had in my HHR SS and the same one in the old Cobalt SS. The same ones they had tons of problems with. And the MPG isn't that great so don't get too excited.

According to GM it isn't. This is a new third generation Ecotec, just released and only available in the ATS and Chevy Malibu so far. We'll see if it is any different.

From the turbo cars I've driven the mileage sucks if you use the boost. Turbo cars are great for the way the EPA tests though, easy driving not using much boost, so expect to see more of them as CAFE MPG requirements for fleets increase.

[Porkchop]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

A 4-cyl in a Cadillac?

Fuck... even Jaguar had a 4 cylinder (turbo?) option on the XF.

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

Never even heard of this thing... saw one on my way to work...

My friends dad has one. Drives like a dream.... Slick inside, surprising amount of room.

[RACER X]

buick GN, GNX and T-Type comingback

http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/gran...-to-buick.html

[Adeptus_Minor]

Originally Posted by RACER X

buick GN, GNX and T-Type comingback

http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/gran...-to-buick.html

Oh my goodness
Oh my damn
Oh my goodness
They're goin' ham

[CasterTroy]

Originally Posted by Adeptus_Minor

Oh my goodness
Oh my damn
Oh my goodness
They're goin' ham

My sentiments as well

[LeeNetworX]

Nice. Looks like they lifted many design cues from the Bimmers.