CA Declares State of Fiscal Emergency...

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Avatard

You know, the Republicans spend my fucking grandchildren's money (MANY Billions) on totally invented wars against countries that never attacked us, and then they whine about paying mere pennies (by comparison) to Mexicans and Blacks on public assistance - it's just a ploy, a misdirection, (it's racist) and it's old.

Also, there's more white people on assistance, if I'm not mistaken, so the Republicans can put away their white pointy hats, and give that fucking tune a rest anyway.

The Republican strategy is blame the poor.

Not really a surprise when you're the party of the rich (and the stupid poor who think the Republicans care about abortion and gays, and Jeebus).

Obama spent 3x in 2 years than what Bush spent in 8. Seriously quit being stupid. But...they are both to blame...but not in CA.

[tallywacker]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

CA's problems are fairly simple. The problem is that people do not want to budge, nor do we want to pay more taxes.

1. Quit paying for social programs forever. It doesn't work.
2. Align retirement programs with the private sector.
3. Quit paying for illegal programs unless they are paying their fair share in taxes.
4. Balance the fucking budget. If you don't have it, people don't get it. Simple as that.

There simple.

Too bad were at the point that some people are so dependent that CA would collapse under riots and rebellion. Same thing as taking heroin from an addict, it's gonna get really bad before it gets good again.

[nhgunnut]

Originally Posted by tallywacker

Too bad were at the point that some people are so dependent that CA would collapse under riots and rebellion. Same thing as taking heroin from an addict, it's gonna get really bad before it gets good again.

I have to agree, California, is a state of perpetual Entitlement and Dependence. Its population is so used to hand outs that most couldn't survive with out them. Where I disagree with some of the previous posts is, I don't believe it is the illegal worker that is the problem. The majority are not afraid to work.
BTW California is just the most recent. Also becoming a State of Despair is Massachusetts for exactly the same reasons.

[Captain Morgan]

Originally Posted by Avatard

They just may be to blame, I can't really say. I don't know that much.

But, I'd just hazard to guess that a multi-cultural, major sea-port hub state, staffed in large part by migrant workers, and the center on much of the entire left coast's economic activity (and the center of the computer, music, and movie universes) might have unique economic needs and issues.

No?

Just sayin'

I don't think it's as simple as "blame the liberals" [101's knee-jerk catch-all]. That's absurd.

Originally Posted by Avatard

Because at least they say what they're trying to do...they're not nearly the fucking hypocrites that the Republicans are. The fucking Republicans come on like they care about Jeebus, abortion, and gays, but that's just to get the poor stupid god-fearing folk on board.

The truth is, they're a bunch of rich fucking bankers (as proven by the current "hostage" situation). They say they're fiscally conservative, but then they spend like drunken sailors (spending the country's money, BTW, not theirs).

I wouldn't say I give Dems a pass. They don't exactly flip my fucking skirt up either, because, as you said yourself, I am more Libertarian leaning than anything.



Like I said, California is more than an island state...it is the hub and center of so much in this country, and to treat it like that doesn't factor into it (and the state's current situation, as perhaps is this country, in microcosm) is rather disingenuous.

Perhaps the Federal government needs to send more money their way, because the state is just so pivotal to this country's survival and operation...much like NYC, and the surrounding areas in the East.

Wow, your hypocrisy knows no bounds. So, let me get this straight...Cali and NY are more diverse than the rest of the US, so they have different economic needs than the rest of the US, therefore, the federal government should give California and NY handouts. Where, exactly, is this money going to come from? Will it come from the country, or will it come from the Dem's pockets. Afterall, you've already stated that the Republican's spend the country's money, not their own. Whose money do the Dem's spend on all of their social programs? Is it their own, or is it the country's money? Please enlighten those of us who are too stupid to figure it out

[Avatard]

Don't be dense. Diverse confused you. Look it up.

I wasn't talking diverse races (god forbid, don't wanna scare the white folk).

I was talking about diverse (and pivotal) roles those areas provide the rest of the country. In the many major industries they provide goods and services in support of the entire rest of the US.

Like I said, in the case of California, we're talking about it be the CENTER of:

Movie Industry
Music Industry
Computer Industry
Agriculture
Shipping and distribution (with an enormous coastline)

[nhgunnut]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Don't be dense. Diverse confused you. Look it up.

I wasn't talking diverse races (god forbid, don't wanna scare the white folk).

I was talking about diverse (and pivotal) roles those areas provide the rest of the country. In the many major industries they provide goods and services in support of the entire rest of the US.

Like I said, in the case of California, we're talking about it be the CENTER of:

Movie Industry
Music Industry
Computer Industry
Agriculture
Shipping and distribution (with an enormous coastline)

Californis has not been the center of the computer industry in decades. They like the automotive industry have allowed entitlement to price themselves out of the market . California doesn't come close fo feeding it self . Any attempt to prop it up will bleed the rest of the country dry.

[tallywacker]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Don't be dense. Diverse confused you. Look it up.

I wasn't talking diverse races (god forbid, don't wanna scare the white folk).

I was talking about diverse (and pivotal) roles those areas provide the rest of the country. In the many major industries they provide goods and services in support of the entire rest of the US.

Like I said, in the case of California, we're talking about it be the CENTER of:

Movie Industry
Music Industry
Computer Industry
Agriculture
Shipping and distribution (with an enormous coastline)

And you're still in the shitter.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Don't be dense. Diverse confused you. Look it up.

I wasn't talking diverse races (god forbid, don't wanna scare the white folk).

I was talking about diverse (and pivotal) roles those areas provide the rest of the country. In the many major industries they provide goods and services in support of the entire rest of the US.

Like I said, in the case of California, we're talking about it be the CENTER of:

Movie Industry
Music Industry
Computer Industry
Agriculture
Shipping and distribution (with an enormous coastline)

Movie Industry - It can move to Kansas
Music Industry - It can move to Kansas
Computer Industry - It can move to Kansas
Agriculture - The political party in power have never made this economical. In they cater to turning water off in parts of Central CA in lieu of diverting it for minows.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by tallywacker

And you're still in the shitter.

The shitter that everyone wants to vacation to.

[tallywacker]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

The shitter that everyone wants to vacation to.

<------not this guy