Sound Shooting advice & Words of Wisdom - Page 6

askmrjesus · 01-14-2010, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CasterTroy

I hope when the TSA starts using that full body scanner they have a 3X Mag version for guys like me that use that wimpy 9mm

fnfalman can just go with the BIS...

JC

Rider · 01-14-2010, 04:10 PM

I keep telling you guys, if you are stuck on a 9mm, you should really think about a .357 Sig. It's a .40 S&W casing (and powder)necked down to fit a 9mm bullet with superior ballistics to the 9mm, 40S&W, and 45 ACP.

.45 ACP - 200 gr Speer Gold Dot JHP +P 1,080 ft/s (330 m/s) 702J (518 ft·lbf)
.40 S&W - 165 gr Speer Gold Dot JHP 1,150 ft/s (350 m/s) 656J (484 ft·lbf)
9x19mm Parabellum - 115.0 gr JHP +P 1,430 ft/s (435 m/s) 704 J (519 ft·lbf)
.357 SIG - 115 gr Bonded defense JHP 1,550 ft/s (470 m/s) 832J (614 ft·lbf)

I see a clear winner here.

CasterTroy · 01-14-2010, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rider

I see a clear winner here.

I see limitations to what guns you can HAVE...and the ONE gun that fits me like a glove and feels perfect (Springfield XDm) is not chambered for it.

I'll stick with what I have and like (and have 1000's of rounds of ammo already for)

racedoll · 01-14-2010, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CasterTroy

I'm down with OPP as long as it's COD and I'm not gettin STD's

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Originally Posted by CasterTroy

I hope when the TSA starts using that full body scanner they have a 3X Mag version for guys like me that use that wimpy 9mm

Sorry by my mind went the wrong direction here...

Adeptus_Minor · 01-14-2010, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cutty72

CCO is good to 500 yards, which is the effective range of an M4 anyway.

If I'm trying to shoot something at 500 yds with no magnification, it better be the size of a bull elephant.

Archren · 01-14-2010, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cutty72

I prefer the CCO. The ACOG is ok if you are the SDM, but the 3X mag sucks in close quarters. Also, you can't use the BIS with it.

CCO is good to 500 yards, which is the effective range of an M4 anyway.

Yeah, see, my eyesight ain't that great even with my glasses on.

The best score I've gotten even with a CCO is 34/40.

(Edit to add: eyesight isn't the sole reason.. I'm impatient, and it seems the only way I get to practice my shooting lately is if I go play range safety all day first.. so by the time I get to fire, I'm tired and my fundamentals go out the window).

And I've never fired with an ACOG, I just want to try it sometime. That and I'll take any excuse to get as much trigger time as possible on Uncle Sam's dime.

Adeptus_Minor · 01-14-2010, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Archren

And I've never fired with an ACOG, I just want to try it sometime. That and I'll take any excuse to get as much trigger time as possible on Uncle Sam's dime.

That's right, because when you get back here you & Tracy can go to the range with me... but it'll cost ya

I've been tossing around the idea of building an M4gery myself, but I think EOTech is as fancy as I'd be able to get. Trijicon is too damn proud of their ACOGs.

derf · 01-14-2010, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Adeptus_Minor

That's right, because when you get back here you & Tracy can go to the range with me... but it'll cost ya

I've been tossing around the idea of building an M4gery myself, but I think EOTech is as fancy as I'd be able to get. Trijicon is too damn proud of their ACOGs.

EOtech is the shiznit. The sight is huge and all you really need to do is get somewhat behind it to get a good sight picture

Adeptus_Minor · 01-14-2010, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by derf

EOtech is the shiznit. The sight is huge and all you really need to do is get somewhat behind it to get a good sight picture

Yep, worth the $300-500.
Last year I talked to a couple of cops at the shooting range who were practicing with their AR's. They let me squeeze off a few rounds to try out the EOTech.
Good stuff

Can't say I can see dropping the extra for the magnifier, but the sight itself is really sharp.

No Worries · 01-15-2010, 12:44 AM

I spent years doing exploration in the wilds of Nevada. I carried a Ruger Mark 2 in a shoulder holster. Practice makes perfect. I've fired hundreds of bricks of .22's and the only problem I had was the front sight came loose. I've eaten rabbit and rattlesnakes that it provided, and I could shoot from the hip and hit a can ten times. I never feared anything when I wore it. And with the bull barrel, it looks like a .45.

01-14-2010, 04:10 PM	#52
Rider Moto GP Star Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 12,156	I keep telling you guys, if you are stuck on a 9mm, you should really think about a .357 Sig. It's a .40 S&W casing (and powder)necked down to fit a 9mm bullet with superior ballistics to the 9mm, 40S&W, and 45 ACP. .45 ACP - 200 gr Speer Gold Dot JHP +P 1,080 ft/s (330 m/s) 702J (518 ft·lbf) .40 S&W - 165 gr Speer Gold Dot JHP 1,150 ft/s (350 m/s) 656J (484 ft·lbf) 9x19mm Parabellum - 115.0 gr JHP +P 1,430 ft/s (435 m/s) 704 J (519 ft·lbf) .357 SIG - 115 gr Bonded defense JHP 1,550 ft/s (470 m/s) 832J (614 ft·lbf) I see a clear winner here.

01-15-2010, 12:44 AM	#60
No Worries Keyboard Racer Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mile High City Moto: Old Superbikes Posts: 1,016	I spent years doing exploration in the wilds of Nevada. I carried a Ruger Mark 2 in a shoulder holster. Practice makes perfect. I've fired hundreds of bricks of .22's and the only problem I had was the front sight came loose. I've eaten rabbit and rattlesnakes that it provided, and I could shoot from the hip and hit a can ten times. I never feared anything when I wore it. And with the bull barrel, it looks like a .45.