Gun owners 'outed' in NY

[Trip]

Originally Posted by shmike

The individual Trip doesn't worry me but his sect does, if only because of its sheer size.

I didn't say I was for what this newspaper is doing or what Tennessee does with it's property tax assessment website, I was just saying that the information that is being discussed is already available.

There is a lot of information about every one of us out there and it's laughable that people don't realize just how much you can find about a person with a very small amount of known information about that person.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by fasternyou929

I bet that bastard with the super secret Go Kart track was a potential target for retribution, too!

He was worried about neighbors blocking his application because of noise and so forth. He wouldn't tell the people he was trying to get to come out and play on it to spread the info. I just wanted to know where it was at and found it easily.

[fasternyou929]

Originally Posted by Trip

I didn't say I was for what this newspaper is doing or what Tennessee does with it's property tax assessment website, I was just saying that the information that is being discussed is already available.

There is a lot of information about every one of us out there and it's laughable that people don't realize just how much you can find about a person with a very small amount of known information about that person.

But surely you see the difference between being able to look up one's public information by name versus being able to find someone's name and information based on general categories?

[fasternyou929]

Originally Posted by shmike

The individual Trip doesn't worry me but his sect does, if only because of its sheer size.

You aren't kidding. I read a well written letter from a Marine about his opposition to registering his guns should the time come and the comments below it were shocking. Very few in support of him, but plenty of venom and "you couldn't be a Marine if it weren't for the rest of us... you're not above the law... you're no better than anybody else" comments.

It was eye-opening what the masses have the power to vote into play.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by fasternyou929

You aren't kidding. I read a well written letter from a Marine about his opposition to registering his guns should the time come and the comments below it were shocking. Very few in support of him, but plenty of venom and "you couldn't be a Marine if it weren't for the rest of us... you're not above the law... you're no better than anybody else" comments.

It was eye-opening what the masses have the power to vote into play.

Abject fear is an excellent motivator, whether justified or not. Look at The Patriot Act, for example. The People begged for it, at the time.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by fasternyou929

But surely you see the difference between being able to look up one's public information by name versus being able to find someone's name and information based on general categories?

I have guns, I would rather people not be able to know what I have and don't have. I don't necessarily agree with property assessment records online either. However, I advertise my purchases on facebook of my guns and home, so I am not the best advocate for complete privacy. I know some of my friends would have no problem outing me to the media/whoever if for some reason they had reason to research me. I really don't have a leg to stand on to argue against it.

Originally Posted by fasternyou929

You aren't kidding. I read a well written letter from a Marine about his opposition to registering his guns should the time come and the comments below it were shocking. Very few in support of him, but plenty of venom and "you couldn't be a Marine if it weren't for the rest of us... you're not above the law... you're no better than anybody else" comments.

It was eye-opening what the masses have the power to vote into play.

Bull fucking shit.... He got a ton of backing and positive comments. The gun debate is very divided, so you are going to get a lot of positive and negative comments if you take a stand on anything in this debate even if you are a complete neutral in the debate.

[fasternyou929]

Originally Posted by Trip

I have guns, I would rather people not be able to know what I have and don't have. I don't agree with property assessment records online either. However, I advertise my purchases on facebook of my guns and home, so I am not the best advocate for complete privacy. I know some of my friends would have no problem outing me to the media/whoever if for some reason they had reason to research me. I really don't have a leg to stand on to argue against it.

Could have (sorry, could OF) saved yourself a lot of wasted typing as said "no, I do not see a difference between real estate transactions and an interactive map for a politically charged topic."

Originally Posted by Trip

Bull fucking shit.... He got a ton of backing and positive comments. The gun debate is very divided, so you are going to get a lot of positive and negative comments if you take a stand on anything in this debate even if you are a complete neutral in the debate.

I wasn't asking you what I read.

[Homeslice]

Saying it's ok for a newspaper to publish gun owners just because people "could" get that info themselves is like saying it's ok for Cheney to out Valerie Plame just because a reporter outed her before.

[Adeptus_Minor]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Abject fear is an excellent motivator, whether justified or not. Look at The Patriot Act, for example. The People begged for it, at the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1FFVWEQnSM

[CasterTroy]

I know some of you likely saw this on Derf's FB this AM

Friend who is an nypd cop posted a status that he was warned at work to take extra precautions at home and to expect that he should receive that's our actual violence by people he arrested because his name was published on a website along with his address. Etc

And Helen's reply:

Apparently some inmates are using this information to intimidate/threaten COs and their families

I remember, as a kid, my best friends father being a detective and being told "the drill" when I'd come over to spend the night about "if someone breaks in to come after my dad this is what we do..."

And I thought "Your dad's a COP..why would bad guys break INTO his house?!?!?"

That's when I got a shock into THE REAL WORLD from his dad, and the actual FEAR that that family lived with every day because of who he was and the people he put away. One of several reasons I never decided to pursue a career in law enforcement.

Publishing for the masses something that can be FOUND with enough effort and time by anyone (two things a CRIMINAL doesn't both putting forth EFFORT and TIME...hence WHY they are criminals) is a real problem! Especially if LE HOME information has been outted.