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I would not call Arnold skinny at all. He's 63 so obviously he's not going to be huge anymore, but when he's dressed in a well-tailored suit he has the overall shape of an athlete half his age. Only thing that reveals his age is his facial features.
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Your contention is that there is no relation between heavy long-term steroid use and heart disease/weakened heart valves?
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Does steroids even matter in this case? Tons of people die of heart attacks well before 58 that have no steroid use whatsoever. You guys are morons.
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And the "weakened heart valves" line is bullshit - cardio hypertrophy occurs regularly in athletes (hint: people using steroids aren't doing it to sit on the couch), and can result in death for any individual that has an enlarged heart as a result. See: the multiple high school athletes that have died as a result of this phenomena. Also, for shits and giggles I googled it just to see where your hilariously specific mention came from: protip - know what you're talking about thoroughly before using google. Hint: the study placed no control on the dosages of long term users, and therefore the likelihood supraphysiological dosages were administered is more likely, in addition to not examining the cardio training done by said "weight lifters". Studies are shit without effective controls. It's Lyle Alzado all over again - people choosing to blame steroids for the death, when cocaine, something we know for a fact leads to heart attacks and causes permanent heart damage regardless of dosage, is the more likely culprit. In Lyle Alzado's case it was the concussions brought about playing in the NFL that led to brain cancer, not the steroids. Same shit. Same misattributed cause.
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Eityher way, the steroid arguement is moot. You do them knowing the consequences, its that simple.
Pot will give you lung cancer. So will cigs. Alcohol will destroy all your organs, especially your liver. Coke will destroy your heart, so will methamphetamine's. But then, people who are perfectly clean suffer the same fates. Dont live for tomorrow, it isnt guaranteed.
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No, it fucking won't. That's simply a fucking lie, and you need to stop repeating it. Where the fuck do you get your info? Show your work, motherfucker.
From the largest study to date (1997 UCLA), I give you these three groups in their lung cancer ranking: 1) Cigarette smokers 2) Non-smokers 3) Heavy pot smokers Now stop fucking making shit up, please.
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^ Heavy pot smokers having less cancer than non-smokers? I am calling bs. Yeah, I know the claim that pot acts as an "expectorant", but please......if you're a "heavy" smoker of ANYTHING, you're going to cause some damage. Besides, why even smoke it when there are safer ways of using it?
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Dude, it was all over the news. I posted links. It's the largest study ever done. The heavy pot smokers were the least likely to develop lung cancer.
If that fucks with your reality too much, you probably want to ignore the statistic that chronic alcohol drinkers outlive non-drinkers also. ![]()
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