teacher gets aways w/ bangin student

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by goof2

Really? All I have read from you is that something should be "enshrined in law". What that something is has yet to be defined.

Correction: I said that I see no reason why it couldn't be enshrined in law and stated that it was a authority issue, not an age issue.

Verstehen sie?

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

My oh my, you're getting mighty offended over that. Mind, I didn't say that they couldn't chase 17 year olds, just those who they have authority over.

I'm almost impossible to offend, so no.

And I disagree. If you're not having sex with a child then its just plain on consensual sex. Period.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Correction: I said that I see no reason why it couldn't be enshrined in law and stated that it was a authority issue, not an age issue.

Verstehen sie?

I stand corrected. At the same time the questions still stand, and despite your contention haven't been answered, about how it would work. If age is irrelevant how would you envision the law be written to account for those situations? Each one involves people in an authority position, some with more authority than a high school teacher has. Unless I am mistaken, if authority really is the issue and age is irrelevant each one of those situations could, in your view, be illegal.

[karl_1052]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

I'm almost impossible to offend, so no.

And I disagree. If you're not having sex with a child then its just plain on consensual sex. Period.

Not always.
there are tons on instances where bosses take advantage of subordinates.

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by karl_1052

Not always.
there are tons on instances where bosses take advantage of subordinates.

Take advantage of, or rape?

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by karl_1052

Not always.
there are tons on instances where bosses take advantage of subordinates.

Or, perhaps, a teacher says, "You're going to fail, unless......"

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by goof2

I stand corrected. At the same time the questions still stand, and despite your contention haven't been answered, about how it would work. If age is irrelevant how would you envision the law be written to account for those situations? Each one involves people in an authority position, some with more authority than a high school teacher has. Unless I am mistaken, if authority really is the issue and age is irrelevant each one of those situations could, in your view, be illegal.

I should think that is also self evident, from my previous response. I am speaking only of a student-teacher relationship.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Or, perhaps, a teacher says, "You're going to fail, unless......"

Under these circumstances (and the "taking advantage of" situation) consent doesn't exist as it is gained under duress. That is already illegal.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by goof2

Under these circumstances (and the "taking advantage of" situation) consent doesn't exist as it is gained under duress. That is already illegal.

And rather hard to prove.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

I should think that is also self evident, from my previous response. I am speaking only of a student-teacher relationship.

Apparently not.

As I previously stated there are a number of authority-subordinate relationships that have at least the same, if not greater, control compared to a student-teacher relationship. Why would consensual sex be illegal in only under this particular set of circumstances?

Personally I don't like the idea of making consensual sex a crime based on a prima facie assumption of coercion or duress.