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Location: Cherry Hill NJ
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I usually stay out of these arguments since whatever they do at the airport I've put up with worse in service of the nation. To my point of view you all sound like a pack of blubbering vaginas. Do what's required of you or don't go. Simple |
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Moto: Be prepared. What? Oh, *moto*...
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Then someone else can say "When was the last time an airliner was hijacked using a handgun and then flown into a huge skyscraper ultimately killing 3000?" and "Metal detectors detect handguns too," and "Death is always a risk in a free society, especially during mass transit," and finally, in response to 'if you don't want to be scanned don't go to the airport' proponents, "If you don't want to be free don't live in the United States of America."
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That's my thought regarding TSA. Do what's required of you or don't exist. Simple.
TSA has never stopped a terrorist attack in it's entire history. All the attacks since 9/11 have been stopped by attentive passengers and/or flight crew. The approach of "search or scan everybody 'randomly' and equally" is ridiculous and impotent, and as a result so is TSA.
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This was no time for half measures. He was a captain, godsdammit. An officer. Things like this didn't present a problem for an officer. Officers had a tried and tested way of solving problems like this. It was called a sergeant. -Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards! |
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Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Here to integrity
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WERA White Plate
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Austin, TX
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Last trip, I got asked to stand in line for the scanner when there was a perfectly good metal detector standing empty. I asked if I could just go through the metal detector, and the TSA guy just looked at me. That's how I found out that at least in Buffalo, the TSA guys nickname you "Happy" on the radio if you're grumpy with them. ![]() |
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Elitist
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
Moto: Gix 750
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And just because you're in the military doesn't mean you have to agree lock-step with everyting this country does in the name of security. |
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Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Here to integrity
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He'll make a nice pet. Well, that's cool I guess...someone has to defend our freedoms, even if he doesn't personally understand them.
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Elitist
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
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I don't accuse servicemen of being robots. I tried to join myself. I just feel that they can't lay claim to the "wo is me" defense. Do they make plenty of sacrifices, yes.....But they voluntarily joined, and in return for their hardships, they receive intangible benefits that civilians don't (pride, camradere, adventure, etc.).
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Europhile
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: SoCal
Moto: Aprilia RS125, Aprilia SR50 Factory, Aprilia Tuono, BMW Rockster, KTM 990 Adventure
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Former Miss USA must have been a Muslim terrorist or something...
Fuck the TSA!!!
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AMA Supersport
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Before 9/11 hijackings were about the people on board the plane. They served as leverage the hijackers could use to make something happen. Sure, hijackers would occasionally kill a few to demonstrate how "serious" they were but overall hostages were treated as valuable and were relatively safe. Airplanes were targeted for no other reason than by design they easily confine a large number of people, are mobile, and were viewed (somewhat incorrectly) as easy to defend. Because of this people (including crew) learned to be passive and the situation would eventually be worked out. For obvious reasons that is no longer the case. If the theory about Flight 93 is correct assumptions about how to deal with a hijacking changed as the events on 9/11 were happening. Hijacking an airplane makes little sense anymore since hijackers are no longer going to be dealing with a passive group just trying to make it through the incident alive. The threat of death makes little difference to people who believe they are going to die anyway. Hijackers will now get a group intent on preventing them from using the airplane as a giant cruise missile. That shift alone serves as more prevention than any security measures the TSA could institute. On a different note, how many of you who are complaining about security at airports believe weapons should be allowed on commercial aircraft? |
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