My Bike Is Gone! - Page 4

zed · 03-20-2009, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixxxxer

I didnt know Wet Clutches had that Issue

yes, can be caused by a misadjusted cable or some bikes have a screw and locknut at the clutch that can be incorrectly set. also some oils will cause slippage, the reason to make sure there are no friction modifiers in the oil you put in your bike.

rogue · 03-20-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by zed

yes, can be caused by a misadjusted cable or some bikes have a screw and locknut at the clutch that can be incorrectly set. also some oils will cause slippage, the reason to make sure there are no friction modifiers in the oil you put in your bike.

The cables have never really been adjusted (to my knowledge unless the ex did it) and I've always used V-Twin specific oil.

What type of kit would I need to look for? I'm looking at the microfiche on my bike now as well as googling for parts. I'm kind of at a loss since I know jack shit about this. Can anyone point me in a general direction of what I need? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

zed · 03-20-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogue

The cables have never really been adjusted (to my knowledge unless the ex did it) and I've always used V-Twin specific oil.

What type of kit would I need to look for? I'm looking at the microfiche on my bike now as well as googling for parts. I'm kind of at a loss since I know jack shit about this. Can anyone point me in a general direction of what I need? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

your guy may be able to tell you the reason, I was just giving out some examples of what could cause it.

depending on how bad it is you may need steel and fiber plates, would need to look at them before ordering or just go ahead and get both to be safe to have all the parts you need. I'll let others suggest parts for it. I'm partial to using OEM parts when I can.

did he say anything about your oil when he changed it? I always look at what settles in the bottom of the pan after I empty the drain pan.

rogue · 03-20-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by zed

your guy may be able to tell you the reason, I was just giving out some examples of what could cause it.

depending on how bad it is you may need steel and fiber plates, would need to look at them before ordering or just go ahead and get both to be safe to have all the parts you need. I'll let others suggest parts for it. I'm partial to using OEM parts when I can.

did he say anything about your oil when he changed it? I always look at what settles in the bottom of the pan after I empty the drain pan.

He didn't change the oil as it was still clean. Although I have plans on changing it before the rally, if I even get to go now. I usually go with whatever parts is good at the best price. I don't race. I don't ride hard. I don't need stuff with all the latest technology that drives the cost of the part up.

'73 H1 Triple · 03-20-2009, 08:40 PM

You'll need a side cover gasket, "X" amount of clutch plates and possibly "X" amount of steel ctutch plates.

I'll get a picture of the clutch hub in my H1 triple and it'll give you an idea what to look for.

It's not brain surgery but just pay attention to where everything goes for when you put it back together. Take plenty of digital pics

BRB

Jeff

rogue · 03-20-2009, 08:43 PM

I also have a copy of the service manual on my bike, so I have something to go by as well....

'73 H1 Triple · 03-20-2009, 09:07 PM

The gear on the outer clutch basket is driven by the crankshaft. When the clutch is pulled in, the fiber and steel plates do not touch. When the clutch is released, the springs press the steel and fiber plates together and make the cycle go.

The fiber plates are smooth on the inside and have tabs which fit into the main clutch housing. The steel plates are splined which fit onto the aluminum hub and smooth on the outside. The spring rings in the back fit in between the steel plates and inside the fiber plates.

If the steel plates are discolored from heat or scarred/gouged, replace them. If your fingernail catches a groove, replace them. You can check them for flatness on a piece of new house window glass ( new meaning glass from the 70s or newer. )

If they look OK, you can clean them up with 240 or 320 grit sandpaper. Clean very well before reusing them.

Here's a closer shot of the steel and fiber plates

Jeff

tached1000rr · 03-20-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogue

I also have a copy of the service manual on my bike, so I have something to go by as well....

I'm not doubting your friend's diagnosis, but have you noticed any difference in the clutch feel, release, or acceleration of your bike? I would think you would notice the difference versus someone just taking your bike out for a spin.

'73 H1 Triple · 03-20-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tached1000rr

I'm not doubting your friend's diagnosis, but have you noticed any difference in the clutch feel, release, or acceleration of your bike? I would think you would notice the difference versus someone just taking your bike out for a spin.

Plus if you weigh 98 lbs and he weighs 230, it could work perfectly for you

tached1000rr · 03-20-2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by '73 H1 Triple

Plus if you weigh 98 lbs and he weighs 230, it could work perfectly for you

If it feels like it has always felt for the most part, then I'd just keep on keeping...

03-20-2009, 08:40 PM	#35
'73 H1 Triple restorer of the original Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Zionsville,PA Moto: '93 ZR1100 &'73 Kawasaki H1 500 Posts: 1,331	You'll need a side cover gasket, "X" amount of clutch plates and possibly "X" amount of steel ctutch plates. I'll get a picture of the clutch hub in my H1 triple and it'll give you an idea what to look for. It's not brain surgery but just pay attention to where everything goes for when you put it back together. Take plenty of digital pics BRB Jeff

03-20-2009, 09:07 PM	#37
'73 H1 Triple restorer of the original Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Zionsville,PA Moto: '93 ZR1100 &'73 Kawasaki H1 500 Posts: 1,331	The gear on the outer clutch basket is driven by the crankshaft. When the clutch is pulled in, the fiber and steel plates do not touch. When the clutch is released, the springs press the steel and fiber plates together and make the cycle go. The fiber plates are smooth on the inside and have tabs which fit into the main clutch housing. The steel plates are splined which fit onto the aluminum hub and smooth on the outside. The spring rings in the back fit in between the steel plates and inside the fiber plates. If the steel plates are discolored from heat or scarred/gouged, replace them. If your fingernail catches a groove, replace them. You can check them for flatness on a piece of new house window glass ( new meaning glass from the 70s or newer. ) If they look OK, you can clean them up with 240 or 320 grit sandpaper. Clean very well before reusing them. Here's a closer shot of the steel and fiber plates Jeff