In Job Hunt, College Degree Can’t Close Racial Gap

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

....101 thinks it can't be true, since there's no hard data. There's no hard data, because unlike 101, most racists are blatantly honest about it.

JC

You can argue it both ways...

[Smittie61984]

Just pull out this bad boy...

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by RACER X

you know which group has the best "staying" power, minority women , esp. in male dom. industries like engineering.........

Definitely......

Human Resources is another one too. Nearly every Fortune 500 firm seems to have a "VP of Diversity Programs", and they're all Black or Hispanic women, lol.

[EpyonXero]

Im currently working at a government RDT&E facility with over 1000 employees and probably less than 10% of the employees are minorities.

If minorities are "given" as many jobs as you guys are claiming then im not seeing them.

[derf]

first of what does RDT&E stand for?

I work in a governemt office that is 50% minorities

[HurricaneHeather]

Originally Posted by EpyonXero

Im currently working at a government RDT&E facility with over 1000 employees and probably less than 10% of the employees are minorities.

If minorities are "given" as many jobs as you guys are claiming then im not seeing them.

Yeah, what is RDT&E?

The way AA works is you have to have a certain # of minorities in relation to how many minorities live in your area. If your city is 10% minorities and the company is following AA, they are only required to have 10% of the workforce as minorities. Well, that's the super summed up version, but you get the idea.

[z06boy]

Originally Posted by HurricaneHeather

Yeah, what is RDT&E?

The way AA works is you have to have a certain # of minorities in relation to how many minorities live in your area. If your city is 10% minorities and the company is following AA, they are only required to have 10% of the workforce as minorities. Well, that's the super summed up version, but you get the idea.

Yes and it doesn't matter if there is a white male with better qualifications that ALSO needs a job applying for the same exact position which I think is 100% BS.

If you're more qualified you should get the job PERIOD regardless of race or gender imho.

Yep I'm still bitter and that was over 20 years ago.

[CrazyKell]

RDT&E i think is Research and Design um....Technology and Engineering? Or something along those lines no?

[pauldun170]

(sarcasm on)
I am amazed that white people are able to get HR departments to tell them why they were not hired.

Usually when you don't get a job, you get a simple letter stating "Thanks...but no Thanks"

(sarcasm off)

The best is when someone has a friend at a company they apply to and after not getting hired they find out from a friend that a minority got hired.

Friend at company: "Well they obviously chose him because of affirmative action!!"

[z06boy]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

(sarcasm on)
I am amazed that white people are able to get HR departments to tell them why they were not hired.

Usually when you don't get a job, you get a simple letter stating "Thanks...but no Thanks"

(sarcasm off)

The best is when someone has a friend at a company they apply to and after not getting hired they find out from a friend that a minority got hired.

Friend at company: "Well they obviously chose him because of affirmative action!!"

I didn't find out from the HR department directly...all I got WAS a letter from them which is the norm. I just always wondered about it since the two people that got hired took the physical fitness test at the same time and I smoked both of them that day. I didn't know about the aptitude test results until several years later and again I beat both.

Someone that worked at that company I met a few years later through a mutual friend and that's how I found out. He remembered me and we had a talk about it and confirmed what I already had assumed.

Bottom line was "we had to hire them but we didn't have to hire you".