Crossed up! - Page 3

psychochild28 · 10-14-2009, 09:26 PM

Wow I've learned more from this thread than when I ask people.

racedoll · 10-14-2009, 09:54 PM

Yes, I was talking to Kelly when I said more track time. I was kidding, some what. Like you said, you can practice this on the street... which to me is much easier than sitting in the pits. Granted that will help, but I think actually riding and practicing will help more.

You will get there Kelly.

ceo012384 · 11-03-2009, 09:15 PM

Take a look at this photo... and before anyone makes a keyboard commando comment... look at the number on his number plate.

Case in point, you need to be comfortable, and develop your own style. Being a little crossed up gives you more ability to work the bars and recover from a moment than hanging off dramatically, although that also has its own benefits. The most important thing is to use a position that allows you to relax your arms, bend the elbow, etc.

Here is one of the other very fast guys from our local series. Drastically different positioning, similar speed.

Trip · 11-03-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ceo012384

LOL....he's dragging his knee on grass, nice

shmike · 11-03-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ceo012384

Take a look at this photo... and before anyone makes a keyboard commando comment... look at the number on his number plate.

Case in point, you need to be comfortable, and develop your own style. Being a little crossed up gives you more ability to work the bars and recover from a moment than hanging off dramatically, although that also has its own benefits. The most important thing is to use a position that allows you to relax your arms, bend the elbow, etc.

Here is one of the other very fast guys from our local series. Drastically different positioning, similar speed.

True.

There will always be exceptions. A few of the very fast guys I know prefer the more upright style in your first picture. Almost every one of them comes from an MX background.

Still, Eric's form is more "textbook" proper.

There is a huge difference in a fast guy with an upright (not crossed up) position and a newbie trying to look like Doohan.

Dave · 11-06-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by shmike

True.

There will always be exceptions. A few of the very fast guys I know prefer the more upright style in your first picture. Almost every one of them comes from an MX background.

Still, Eric's form is more "textbook" proper.

There is a huge difference in a fast guy with an upright (not crossed up) position and a newbie trying to look like Doohan.

i dont think my bike could even get that far over. not while keeping its stator anyway

btw, does that say bankai on his back?

CrazyKell · 11-03-2009, 10:44 PM

Well I might get a chance to work on some stuff this weekend.

Bike was put away for the winter but temps have risen and track days are being run this weekend.

tached1000rr · 11-03-2009, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyKell

Well I might get a chance to work on some stuff this weekend.

Bike was put away for the winter but temps have risen and track days are being run this weekend.

go for it!

the chi · 11-04-2009, 09:52 AM

Doohans positioning would make me afraid I'd scrape my ass instead of my knee!!

azoomm · 11-04-2009, 10:05 AM

After working with and being yelled at by Doug Polen, I have to agree with him... y'all make body position entirely too complicated

It should be minimal movement and not hanging all the way off the bike - YOU should still be centered on the bike.

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racedoll AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Moto: '04 Kawasaki ZX6RR Posts: 3,392	Yes, I was talking to Kelly when I said more track time. I was kidding, some what. Like you said, you can practice this on the street... which to me is much easier than sitting in the pits. Granted that will help, but I think actually riding and practicing will help more. You will get there Kelly.

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CrazyKell Vrooom Join Date: Nov 2008 Moto: 06 ZX6R Posts: 4,427	Well I might get a chance to work on some stuff this weekend. Bike was put away for the winter but temps have risen and track days are being run this weekend.