buell 1190RR announced

Dave · 03-05-2010, 11:35 PM

had to beat you buellers to the punch :P

The AMA Pro Road Racing season opens at Daytona this week, and one bike not in competition but still making news is the new Buell 1190RR. Wait, wait, wait… Buell Motorcycles is dead – caput. True, but Erik Buell hasn’t closed up shop entirely, having opened the Erik Buell Racing to provide parts support and sell Buell racebikes for 2010.
Buell 1190RR Superbike
The Buell 1190RR: More power and lighter than the 1125RR, but where will it be racing?

Announced earlier this year, Buell unveils details regarding its latest racebike. As as the name implies, the 1190RR bumps up the 1125R displacement. The two cylinders are bored out to 106mm (from 103mm), with stroke unchanged at 67.5mm. Bike description on the Erik Buell Racing website states that: “Engines are completely disassembled and blueprinted, with top-shelf internal parts added to deliver reliable performance at the extreme rev ranges required for a twin-cylinder bike to compete at these power levels.”

The spec sheet reveals use of a dual injector with showerhead for the fueling, rather than the single injector on the 1125RR. The 1190RR also sources a titanium 2-into-1 exhaust, rather than the 1125’s steel unit. All told the mods add up to a claimed 185 rear-wheel horsepower and 93 lb-ft torque. That’s a 10 hp and 7 lb-ft claimed increase over the 1125RR. The 1190 drops eight lbs as well, with a claimed dry weight of 360 lbs.

Erik Buell poses with his original racebike the RW750.
Erik Buell poses with his original racebike, the RW750. More than two decades later, Buell continues to make purpose-built racers.
The 1190RR represented the next step for the Buell marque. In our Erik Buell Interview exclusive, the company founder was explicit about future racing plans, focusing on American SuperBike in 2010 and plans to jump to World Superbike in 2011. Without question, the 1125 would have to be altered to take advantage of the 1200cc displacement gap for Twins to be competitive – a la the 1190.

As for its immediate racing future, the EBR website states of the new 1190 that: “Although it is not currently approved for AMA ASB class racing, this bike can be raced in many classes around the world and should add new excitement racing against other premium street-based twin roadracers.” One team that will campaign the new 1190RR is the German-based Pegasusraceteam.com, which purchased two of the rides to compete in the European Sound of Thunder Series (Erik Buell Racing Makes First Sales). Addition to the AMA Pro Road racing series seems improbable, though Buell has courted AMA homologation controversy in the past – most notably with its XBRR racebike in the old Formula Xtreme series. Plus, the EBR site does use the terminology “not currently approved.”

Whether that statement reflects unrealistic optimism or not, it gives Buell fans a glimmer of hope for the future. At the very least, the 1190RR is proof of what they’re missing.

Buell 1190RR Specs
Engine: 72° V-Twin, 4-Stroke, 4-valve DOHC FF valvetrain
Displacement: 1190 cc
Bore and Stroke: 106 x 67.5
Compression Ratio: 14.25:1
Heads: CNC ported
Valves: Titanium, 42.0mm intake, 35.4 mm exhaust
Power: 185 RWHP @11,500 RPM (Dynojet Rear Wheel)
Torque: 93.0 lb-ft @ 9,500 RPM (Dynojet Rear Wheel)
Piston: Forged alloy slipper type
Rod: Forged H-beam high strength alloy steel
Crankshaft: Lightweight forged steel
Fuel System: IDS Technology DDFI 3 electronic fuel injection and engine management system, fully programmable, 61mm throttle bodies, dual injector with showerhead, PWM fuel pump
Exhaust: Titanium ultralight 2 into 1 system.
Clutch: Multiplate Slipper
Primary Drive: Straight cut gear, 1.806 ratio
Transmission: 6 speed
Ratios: 6th - 24/25 (0.960:1)
5th - 25/24 (1.042:1)
4th - 27/23 (1.174:1)
3rd - 29/21 (1.381:1)
2nd - 28/16 (1.750:1)
1st - 32/13 (2.462:1)
Final Drive: 520 Chain
Frame: Light alloy large section beam with integral fuel cell
Subframe: Light alloy tubular
Wheelbase: Adjustable - 1400 to 1460 mm (55.1 to 57.4 in.)
Rake: Adjustable - 21° to 22.5°
Front Suspension: Showa Race 43mm inverted fork, fully adjustable with BPF technology providing true separation of rebound and compression damping.
Front Wheel Travel: 120mm (4.72 in)
Front Brake: 387.5 mm (15.25 in) semi floating ISO multi-fin rotor with 8 piston ZTL2.5 caliper
Front Wheel: 6 spoke ZTL magnesium, 3.50 x 17
Front Tire: 120/17 ZR-17 Pirelli Diablo Corsa III
Rear Suspension: Light alloy swingarm with Showa Race damper, adjustable compression, rebound and ride height.
Rear Wheel Travel: 127 mm (5 in)
Rear brake: 240mm lightweight disc, 2 piston caliper
Rear Wheel: 6 spoke magnesium, 6.00 x 17
Rear Tire: 190/55 ZR-17 Pirelli Diablo Corsa III
Fuel Capacity: 4.6 US Gal
Battery: Buell Li-tech Lithium Nanotech
Dry Weight: 360 lbs (wet, no fuel)

dReWpY · 03-05-2010, 11:44 PM

Old news

Amber Lamps · 03-05-2010, 11:46 PM

Yawn....did someone say something about a company that is out of business but the founder is going to fritter away any money he made while affiliated with HD because he can't face reality and let go?

smileyman · 03-05-2010, 11:46 PM

Gotta be homologated. Has to have a public streetable offering. Anyone want to buy an 1125R, a ZX6, a Firebird, a 5 year old???? i want this. Sure if the money is the same I buy the RSV or KTM but still I like it. alot.

Amber Lamps · 03-05-2010, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smileyman

Gotta be homologated. Has to have a public streetable offering. Anyone want to buy an 1125R, a ZX6, a Firebird, a 5 year old???? i want this. Sure if the money is the same I buy the RSV or KTM but still I like it. alot.

Um...from that parts breakdown, I'm thinking $40,000-60,000...I'm surprised that the brakes weren't nixed.

smileyman · 03-06-2010, 12:00 AM

Well i think I heard the race prepped 1125RR was out the door about 40, but if he does race these in most series he has to homologate some for street use. Would be a very exclusive group. I still want one. 2 KTMs sound better at that price tho...

Trip · 03-06-2010, 12:03 AM

Whatever happened to that weird yellow buell that almost looked like a normal bike?

Dave · 03-06-2010, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewpy

Old news

not the specs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip

Whatever happened to that weird yellow buell that almost looked like a normal bike?

probably got crushed. 99.9% chance it didnt have a reg'able vin

Amber Lamps · 03-06-2010, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smileyman

Well i think I heard the race prepped 1125RR was out the door about 40, but if he does race these in most series he has to homologate some for street use. Would be a very exclusive group. I still want one. 2 KTMs sound better at that price tho...

Actually, if you work it right... 1. BMW S1000rr and 1. Ducati 1198 and 1. KTM 1190RC8 = 1. Buell 1190RR hmmmm....Heck, you might even get to squeeze in a trailer to haul them in.

killroy134 · 05-30-2010, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

Actually, if you work it right... 1. BMW S1000rr and 1. Ducati 1198 and 1. KTM 1190RC8 = 1. Buell 1190RR hmmmm....Heck, you might even get to squeeze in a trailer to haul them in.

Ducati 1198 R Corse $39,995.00 (NOT RACE PREPPED)
180 HP 361 pounds dry
http://www.ducati.com/bikes/superbik...e/tech_spec.do

Buell 1190RR $44,900.00 (READY TO RACE)
185 HP 360 pounds wet (no fuel)
http://www.ducati.com/bikes/superbik...e/tech_spec.do

Look at the bike specs, these two are pretty equal. I would love to see them both on the same track! It is sad that people can't get excited that someone in the US is actually becoming succesful at making a true American Sportbike.

I cant wait to see what happens when the noncompete agreement is up.

03-05-2010, 11:35 PM	#1
Dave Chaotic Neutral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Moto: GV1200 Madura, Hawk gt Posts: 13,992	buell 1190RR announced had to beat you buellers to the punch :P The AMA Pro Road Racing season opens at Daytona this week, and one bike not in competition but still making news is the new Buell 1190RR. Wait, wait, wait… Buell Motorcycles is dead – caput. True, but Erik Buell hasn’t closed up shop entirely, having opened the Erik Buell Racing to provide parts support and sell Buell racebikes for 2010. Buell 1190RR Superbike The Buell 1190RR: More power and lighter than the 1125RR, but where will it be racing? Announced earlier this year, Buell unveils details regarding its latest racebike. As as the name implies, the 1190RR bumps up the 1125R displacement. The two cylinders are bored out to 106mm (from 103mm), with stroke unchanged at 67.5mm. Bike description on the Erik Buell Racing website states that: “Engines are completely disassembled and blueprinted, with top-shelf internal parts added to deliver reliable performance at the extreme rev ranges required for a twin-cylinder bike to compete at these power levels.” The spec sheet reveals use of a dual injector with showerhead for the fueling, rather than the single injector on the 1125RR. The 1190RR also sources a titanium 2-into-1 exhaust, rather than the 1125’s steel unit. All told the mods add up to a claimed 185 rear-wheel horsepower and 93 lb-ft torque. That’s a 10 hp and 7 lb-ft claimed increase over the 1125RR. The 1190 drops eight lbs as well, with a claimed dry weight of 360 lbs. Erik Buell poses with his original racebike the RW750. Erik Buell poses with his original racebike, the RW750. More than two decades later, Buell continues to make purpose-built racers. The 1190RR represented the next step for the Buell marque. In our Erik Buell Interview exclusive, the company founder was explicit about future racing plans, focusing on American SuperBike in 2010 and plans to jump to World Superbike in 2011. Without question, the 1125 would have to be altered to take advantage of the 1200cc displacement gap for Twins to be competitive – a la the 1190. As for its immediate racing future, the EBR website states of the new 1190 that: “Although it is not currently approved for AMA ASB class racing, this bike can be raced in many classes around the world and should add new excitement racing against other premium street-based twin roadracers.” One team that will campaign the new 1190RR is the German-based Pegasusraceteam.com, which purchased two of the rides to compete in the European Sound of Thunder Series (Erik Buell Racing Makes First Sales). Addition to the AMA Pro Road racing series seems improbable, though Buell has courted AMA homologation controversy in the past – most notably with its XBRR racebike in the old Formula Xtreme series. Plus, the EBR site does use the terminology “not currently approved.” Whether that statement reflects unrealistic optimism or not, it gives Buell fans a glimmer of hope for the future. At the very least, the 1190RR is proof of what they’re missing. Buell 1190RR Specs Engine: 72° V-Twin, 4-Stroke, 4-valve DOHC FF valvetrain Displacement: 1190 cc Bore and Stroke: 106 x 67.5 Compression Ratio: 14.25:1 Heads: CNC ported Valves: Titanium, 42.0mm intake, 35.4 mm exhaust Power: 185 RWHP @11,500 RPM (Dynojet Rear Wheel) Torque: 93.0 lb-ft @ 9,500 RPM (Dynojet Rear Wheel) Piston: Forged alloy slipper type Rod: Forged H-beam high strength alloy steel Crankshaft: Lightweight forged steel Fuel System: IDS Technology DDFI 3 electronic fuel injection and engine management system, fully programmable, 61mm throttle bodies, dual injector with showerhead, PWM fuel pump Exhaust: Titanium ultralight 2 into 1 system. Clutch: Multiplate Slipper Primary Drive: Straight cut gear, 1.806 ratio Transmission: 6 speed Ratios: 6th - 24/25 (0.960:1) 5th - 25/24 (1.042:1) 4th - 27/23 (1.174:1) 3rd - 29/21 (1.381:1) 2nd - 28/16 (1.750:1) 1st - 32/13 (2.462:1) Final Drive: 520 Chain Frame: Light alloy large section beam with integral fuel cell Subframe: Light alloy tubular Wheelbase: Adjustable - 1400 to 1460 mm (55.1 to 57.4 in.) Rake: Adjustable - 21° to 22.5° Front Suspension: Showa Race 43mm inverted fork, fully adjustable with BPF technology providing true separation of rebound and compression damping. Front Wheel Travel: 120mm (4.72 in) Front Brake: 387.5 mm (15.25 in) semi floating ISO multi-fin rotor with 8 piston ZTL2.5 caliper Front Wheel: 6 spoke ZTL magnesium, 3.50 x 17 Front Tire: 120/17 ZR-17 Pirelli Diablo Corsa III Rear Suspension: Light alloy swingarm with Showa Race damper, adjustable compression, rebound and ride height. Rear Wheel Travel: 127 mm (5 in) Rear brake: 240mm lightweight disc, 2 piston caliper Rear Wheel: 6 spoke magnesium, 6.00 x 17 Rear Tire: 190/55 ZR-17 Pirelli Diablo Corsa III Fuel Capacity: 4.6 US Gal Battery: Buell Li-tech Lithium Nanotech Dry Weight: 360 lbs (wet, no fuel) __________________ TWF Post whore #6

03-05-2010, 11:46 PM	#4
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	Gotta be homologated. Has to have a public streetable offering. Anyone want to buy an 1125R, a ZX6, a Firebird, a 5 year old???? i want this. Sure if the money is the same I buy the RSV or KTM but still I like it. alot. __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

03-06-2010, 12:00 AM	#6
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	Well i think I heard the race prepped 1125RR was out the door about 40, but if he does race these in most series he has to homologate some for street use. Would be a very exclusive group. I still want one. 2 KTMs sound better at that price tho... __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

03-05-2010, 11:46 PM	#3
Amber Lamps Moto GP Star Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 14,556	Yawn....did someone say something about a company that is out of business but the founder is going to fritter away any money he made while affiliated with HD because he can't face reality and let go?