Cesar Millan

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by CrazyKell

Cesar doesn't seem mean to me at all.

Those are the idiots that give pitts a bad name unfortunately.

Why do they hate him?

They, along with quite a few people including the ASPCA, denounce his Pack methods as barbaric, abusive and detrimental to a dog's mental stability. To them positive reinforcement is the only thing you should ever give a dog. They claim there are so many other, humane ways you can use.

And then in the next thread they'll be talking about how they'd never, EVER, EEEVVVEEERRR take their dogs to a dog park, "Cause its just too dangerous, you never know what could happen."

Unless of course your dog respects you, then you'll know exactly what can happen. My very high drive Pit Bull, for example, has been attacked by numerous dogs and never retaliated. Why? Because his first reaction is to look to me for guidance and protection.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

They, along with quite a few people including the ASPCA, denounce his Pack methods as barbaric, abusive and detrimental to a dog's mental stability. To them positive reinforcement is the only thing you should ever give a dog. They claim there are so many other, humane ways you can use.

And then in the next thread they'll be talking about how they'd never, EVER, EEEVVVEEERRR take their dogs to a dog park, "Cause its just too dangerous, you never know what could happen."

Unless of course your dog respects you, then you'll know exactly what can happen. My very high drive Pit Bull, for example, has been attacked by numerous dogs and never retaliated. Why? Because his first reaction is to look to me for guidance and protection.

LOL, I was just about to say the same thing. Cesar uses "fringe" tactics...but they work if you know how to use them. At the same time, his tactics might get you bit.

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

They, along with quite a few people including the ASPCA, denounce his Pack methods as barbaric, abusive and detrimental to a dog's mental stability. To them positive reinforcement is the only thing you should ever give a dog. They claim there are so many other, humane ways you can use.

And then in the next thread they'll be talking about how they'd never, EVER, EEEVVVEEERRR take their dogs to a dog park, "Cause its just too dangerous, you never know what could happen."

Unless of course your dog respects you, then you'll know exactly what can happen. My very high drive Pit Bull, for example, has been attacked by numerous dogs and never retaliated. Why? Because his first reaction is to look to me for guidance and protection.

That's fucking insane... it amazes me that anyone would denounce a method that treats a dog like... A FUCKING DOG! and not a person... especially the ASPCA.

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by Inferno

LOL, I was just about to say the same thing. Cesar uses "fringe" tactics...but they work if you know how to use them. At the same time, his tactics might get you bit.

Maybe, but if you don't want to get bit then you should not deal with extremely out of control and aggressive animals. It has nothing to do with Cesar's methods, but with the dog itself. Plenty of "crazy" dogs would bite you if you tried to give them a treat or pet them too.

Cesar's methods and teaching definitely helped save my dog's life.

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

That's fucking insane... it amazes me that anyone would denounce a method that treats a dog like... A FUCKING DOG! and not a person... especially the ASPCA.

Its not surprising at all, most dog "professionals" don't have any knowledge of scientific canine behaviors. Shelters and rescues are the absolute worst, Vets are right behind them.

[CrazyKell]

I wish people could see the way my roommate is raising her two huskies.

When they jump up on her (tall enough to reach her shoulders), she laughs and smiles and says in a cutesy voice "oooh inuk".

When they jump up on the couch she laughs.

But when they get out of the yard and won't come back, or when she tries to walk them and they're all over the place....she gets angry at them.

Just last night I was getting Lulu ready for her walk, and she said to her friend that was there "Kelly's a lot better at actually taking her dog out for a walk" and her friend said "Oh but A, you're a postal worker so you walk all day, the last thing you want to do is come home and go for a walk."

Um....how about NOT buying 2 dogs that were born and bred to run for hours on end then.

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by CrazyKell

I wish people could see the way my roommate is raising her two huskies.

When they jump up on her (tall enough to reach her shoulders), she laughs and smiles and says in a cutesy voice "oooh inuk".

When they jump up on the couch she laughs.

But when they get out of the yard and won't come back, or when she tries to walk them and they're all over the place....she gets angry at them.

Just last night I was getting Lulu ready for her walk, and she said to her friend that was there "Kelly's a lot better at actually taking her dog out for a walk" and her friend said "Oh but A, you're a postal worker so you walk all day, the last thing you want to do is come home and go for a walk."

Um....how about NOT buying 2 dogs that were born and bred to run for hours on end then.

But, but... they're soooooooooo cute! :vomit:

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Its not surprising at all, most dog "professionals" don't have any knowledge of scientific canine behaviors. Shelters and rescues are the absolute worst, Vets are right behind them.

I agree with this.

We have trained our dogs with pack methods, it's a language dogs *get*.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by azoomm

I agree with this.

We have trained our dogs with pack methods, it's a language dogs *get*.

Dogs and cats.

[CrazyKell]

Forgot to mention I got my tickets yesterday to his Cesar Millan Live show. I see him November 2nd. Should be interesting.

My roommate's going too. Here's hoping she listens.