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Old 01-11-2010, 02:41 AM   #21
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Pics? Which supension dude did you talk to? I'm sure he'll say every stock bike is junk, to convince people to pay for his services.
I will say this, for stock suspension this is probably the best I've ridden in a bike that wasn't equipped with Ohlins stock. The front and rear track each other quite well.

You start to see the need for aftermarket when ur pushing it hard, though.
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Old 01-11-2010, 02:45 AM   #22
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Yep. I bet it's just fine for the street and occasional track days...just like most modern sportbikes.
Yeah, no doubt. Seriously the components are very very good for stock.

The OEMs are making suspension that actually works out of the box these days. However, when you want to ride harder without the fear of low or highsiding due to the suspension, you need to have it rebuilt.

Actually, the suspension is pretty stiff for strickly street use.
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Old 01-11-2010, 03:14 AM   #23
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Tije told me the problem with the BPF front end is that there is almost no low speed compression. So...when you dive into the corner you can be late as fuck on the brakes (the front doesn't dive),
Wait, if there's no dive, then the forks have a LOT of low-speed compression damping.

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but when you drive out of the corner, the front rises too fast causing highsides
If it rises too fast, then there's not enough low-speed REBOUND damping.
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:31 AM   #24
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still no pics in this thread, lame
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Old 01-11-2010, 05:05 PM   #26
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Wait, if there's no dive, then the forks have a LOT of low-speed compression damping.



If it rises too fast, then there's not enough low-speed REBOUND damping.
You can barely push the suspension up and down sitting there (and the front preload is only 1 turn from full soft out of like 20 or something turns).

It has high and low speed compression damping (but only the typical high speed is adjustable). This is what he told me...who am I to argue since he is one of the best suspension gurus in socal.

I explained to him that under 80 or so the suspension feels real good, but over that, the bike cannot compensate for bumps fast enough and it feels stiff / like its not feeling the road as good as it should. He told me that is as good as it gets because the front end is just too stiff. And fuck it is stiff.

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still no pics in this thread, lame
My camera eats batteries for some odd reason. I'll have to buy more batteries (again) and take a couple of snaps. Just for u Tripster.
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Old 01-11-2010, 05:09 PM   #28
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Wait, if there's no dive, then the forks have a LOT of low-speed compression damping......
That is the problem when ur exiting the corners. Diving into corners isn't all that bad.
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Old 01-11-2010, 05:14 PM   #29
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he is aware that that fork is bpf right? I mean i dont know if it adjusts different but hell it might.
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You can barely push the suspension up and down sitting there (and the front preload is only 1 turn from full soft out of like 20 or something turns).
Did you get it measured and set up for you? I find it hard to believe that someone like you who's 190-200 lbs would only need 1 turn on the preload. Seems like it would cause the suspension to "top out" over bumps and whenever you power out of turns.
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the bike cannot compensate for bumps fast enough .
Which is because either it's topping out, or there's too much high-speed damping.

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