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Old 12-14-2009, 12:34 PM   #21
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My oh my, you're getting mighty offended over that. Mind, I didn't say that they couldn't chase 17 year olds, just those who they have authority over.
So what should the age of consent be changed to specifically for cases where one person is in a position of authority?
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:37 PM   #22
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So what should the age of consent be changed to specifically for cases where one person is in a position of authority?
Did I say that it should be?
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Did the teacher "get away with it", or did the teacher not break any laws?

While I disagree with what the teacher did, from my understanding is it was legal there. It was against the school districts rules, and now the teacher is no longer employed within that school district.
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Did the teacher "get away with it", or did the teacher not break any laws?

While I disagree with what the teacher did, from my understanding is it was legal there. It was against the school districts rules, and now the teacher is no longer employed within that school district.
Which, given the laws and rules governing him in that location, was reasonable.
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Which, given the laws and rules governing him in that location, was reasonable.
Agreed.
In my estimation, the juice wasn't worth the squeeze in this case.
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Did I say that it should be?
It sounds like it to me.

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Mind, I didn't say that they couldn't chase 17 year olds, just those who they have authority over.
I read this as a 17 year old who can normally give consent no longer has that ability when they are giving it to someone who has authority over them. Should the restriction you seek be administrative (as it was in this case) or should it be legal? If legal, at what age would the chasee regain the ability to consent when dealing with someone who has authority over them?
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It sounds like it to me.



I read this as a 17 year old who can normally give consent no longer has that ability when they are giving it to someone who has authority over them. Should the restriction you seek be administrative (as it was in this case) or should it be legal? If legal, at what age would the chasee regain the ability to consent when dealing with someone who has authority over them?
It isn't an age of consent issue, it's an authority issue. I see no reason why it can't be enshrined in law, as such interaction is an inducement to malfeasance. The age is immaterial.
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It isn't an age of consent issue, it's an authority issue. I see no reason why it can't be enshrined in law, as such interaction is an inducement to malfeasance. The age is immaterial.
OK, carry it out past this specific case.

Would it be OK for a high school teacher to bang an 18 year old student? How about an idiot that was held back a few years and is 20 years old? It doesn't sound like these would be permissible since "age is immaterial".

Would it be OK for a college professor to bang a 17 or 18 year old student? The ages are the same and a similar authority issue is presented.

If that wouldn't be permissible, what if the college professor is banging a 20 year old, 25 year old, or 40 year old student?

How about a boss banging an 17 year old intern, 18 year old intern, 18 year old employee, or a 30 year old employee. All of these situations involve someone in a position of authority, often times more authority than a high school teacher has.

"an inducement to malfeasance" sounds legal and all, but it is really a bunch of BS. It means the same thing as "trying to do something I don't agree with". People in positions of authority sleep with those under them all the time. It should be handled administratively, not legally.
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OK, carry it out past this specific case.

Would it be OK for a high school teacher to bang an 18 year old student? How about an idiot that was held back a few years and is 20 years old? It doesn't sound like these would be permissible since "age is immaterial".

Would it be OK for a college professor to bang a 17 or 18 year old student? The ages are the same and a similar authority issue is presented.

If that wouldn't be permissible, what if the college professor is banging a 20 year old, 25 year old, or 40 year old student?

How about a boss banging an 17 year old intern, 18 year old intern, 18 year old employee, or a 30 year old employee. All of these situations involve someone in a position of authority, often times more authority than a high school teacher has.

"an inducement to malfeasance" sounds legal and all, but it is really a bunch of BS. It means the same thing as "trying to do something I don't agree with". People in positions of authority sleep with those under them all the time. It should be handled administratively, not legally.
I believe that I already answered that.
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Old 12-14-2009, 02:03 PM   #30
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I believe that I already answered that.
Really? All I have read from you is that something should be "enshrined in law". What that something is has yet to be defined.
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