2008 or newer R1

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Trip

They still suck

You are spewing bias nonsense, which you do not know wtf you are talking about. And we are talking about sportbikes only.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

You are spewing bias nonsense, which you do not know wtf you are talking about. And we are talking about sportbikes only.

They still suck.

I am just joking dude.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

Is the 2009 the crossplane bike? Then no..it sucks. Get an 06-08...much more flickable bike.

Flickable is mostly susp. setup and tire choice

What would you prefer, another generic 4-cyl? ....or one that has a nice beat to it. Let's face it, the R1 is the only Jap bike with any distinctive feature about it. The rest are all the same.......Traction control, BPF, 3-mode ECU, radial brakes, slipper clutch........almost all of them have that shit now.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Trip

They still suck.

I am just joking dude.

I had my suspicion...but my feelings were beginning to get a tad hurt.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Flickable is mostly susp. setup and tire choice

What would you prefer, another generic 4-cyl? ....or one that has a nice beat to it. Let's face it, the R1 is the only Jap bike with any distinctive feature about it. The rest are all the same.......Traction control, BPF, 3-mode ECU, radial brakes, slipper clutch........almost all of them have that shit now.

Sure the motor is good, but why 20lbs heavier? So they can put a big counterbalancer on?

I prefer inlines to V-twins for canyon riding....I have better throttle control with inlines.

And the only reason for BPF is because they are cheaper, yet inherently more expensive to do front end work.

[Porkchop]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

Seriously. they do not suck anymore. I've have ALOT of Kawis and I've ridden alot of other sportbikes and it is true they were not as refined as other bikes till about 2008. The ZX6r is the best 600 IMO (and nearly all of the mags) and now the ZX10r the best 1000. Even the suspension guy told me to upgrade to the 2011 10r because they "finally got the chassis right" when I wanted to get a 2008 R1. He said ithe 2008 R1 t is a heavy POS, that a 2007 would be a much better option if I wanted an R1.

They are very close...but Kawis does not suck any longer, yet still easiest to work on.

Don't you mean the 2006 R1 would be a better option? The 2007 and 2008 are the same bike.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Porkchop

Don't you mean the 2006 R1 would be a better option? The 2007 and 2008 are the same bike.

Yeah I was mistaken when he first posted the 2008...I thought that was the heavy crossplane bike...but it is not.

[Mudpuppy]

Yeah 2004-06 are the same bike pretty much - the 06 has some chasis mods that make it handle a bit better but 99% is the same for the 3 years.. 07 was a new model and same as 08.. 09 was the cross plane crank shaft and continued through 11 (essentially 09-11 are the same bike).. I hear 12 is going to be another new model but not confirmed.. But seriously if I am going to spend $14k on a bike I would just get the BMW S1000RR..

[Homeslice]

Trouble with the 07/08 is they don't look different enough from the 04-06

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Flickable is mostly susp. setup and tire choice

What would you prefer, another generic 4-cyl? ....or one that has a nice beat to it. Let's face it, the R1 is the only Jap bike with any distinctive feature about it. The rest are all the same.......Traction control, BPF, 3-mode ECU, radial brakes, slipper clutch........almost all of them have that shit now.

The r1 doesn't have half the shit you just listed. You can't even access wot to redline