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Old 06-11-2012, 08:56 PM   #21
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Right... which was my point.



Ok, so the guy busts in and sees his daughter being fondled... he grabs the guy and tosses him to the ground, punching him a couple of times and the dude dies... He protected his daughter. Now, let's say the guy does EXACTLY the same thing, except he hits the guy literally 100x in the face with a brick... he protected his daughter and committed manslaughter. Simple.
And, if he would have pulled him off and shot him in the face?

I'm with Trip, statue and metal much more than jail time.

In fact, might be less subjective if he would have just shot the guy.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:09 PM   #22
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There is both a legal and a moral question and by all accounts he needed killing
Agreed, sadly all the pedobears are usualy segregated in prison. Throw em in with they ayrian nation guys nad let them sort it out.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:25 PM   #23
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Fuck the pedo. Should have gotten a red hot rod and shoved it in his pee hole.
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:52 AM   #24
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In fact, might be less subjective if he would have just shot the guy.
Beating someone to death has a much more visceral quality to it, which leads to a much better "Justifiable Rage" defense.

"I saw this guy on my daughter, and I just went out of control".

Case closed.

No DA in his right mind, is going to charge this guy with anything more than involuntary manslaughter, with a recommendation of one year's probation.

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Old 06-12-2012, 07:53 AM   #25
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Agreed, sadly all the pedobears are usualy segregated in prison. Throw em in with they ayrian nation guys nad let them sort it out.
Even Identifying him as a Pedo (or RIpper here in the Northeast) is considered a hate crime once he is incarcerated
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Even Identifying him as a Pedo (or RIpper here in the Northeast) is considered a hate crime once he is incarcerated
I do bet they find out and out the guy one way or another.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:18 AM   #27
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I have two daughters...

He should receive a metal and a parade.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:38 PM   #28
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Right... which was my point.

Ok, so the guy busts in and sees his daughter being fondled... he grabs the guy and tosses him to the ground, punching him a couple of times and the dude dies... He protected his daughter. Now, let's say the guy does EXACTLY the same thing, except he hits the guy literally 100x in the face with a brick... he protected his daughter and committed manslaughter. Simple.
As a question of law, it would matter whether he was already carrying the brick when he walked in on the act, in progress. If he stopped to pick one up, then it shows forethought. As he beat the guy to death with his hands, not so much. As AMJ says no DA is going to want to go forward with such a case, if the medical evidence proves out. Certainly not if he has a hope of re-election.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:53 PM   #29
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As a question of law, it would matter whether he was already carrying the brick when he walked in on the act, in progress. If he stopped to pick one up, then it shows forethought. As he beat the guy to death with his hands, not so much. As AMJ says no DA is going to want to go forward with such a case, if the medical evidence proves out. Certainly not if he has a hope of re-election.
Not necessarily... It's a matter of excessive force... anything beyond what was necessary to stop the attack could be considered excessive. Again, it's not clearly defined...
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Not necessarily... It's a matter of excessive force... anything beyond what was necessary to stop the attack could be considered excessive. Again, it's not clearly defined...
In the case of imminent threat, the 'excessive force' issue is frequently ignored. Especially so in cases, in which no weapon was used.

Have you ever been in a situation in which all reason left you, and you completely lost control? I have. It's a frightening thing to know that you could have killed someone. You aren't thinking about appropriate force. You aren't thinking about anything. You're simply, instinctively trying to erase something.
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