Shoot now, focus later. - Page 2

marko138 · 10-20-2011, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Particle Man

Shit, is it national talk like a pirate day already?

Nah, he's talking about this shizzzz:

Archren · 10-20-2011, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman

I still get paid pretty good for weddings based on my portfolio, but I agree with you wholeheartedly. Hell, most of the expensive equipment I use like my remote flashes, flash bracket, battery extender, etc. etc. are mostly for show just so I can look more prepared than the other 8 people who showed up with the same DSLR camera body as me!

Makes me almost want to bring a field camera to shoot wedding portraits.

Beat THAT, Random-Uncle-With-DSLR!

Trip · 10-20-2011, 02:45 PM

I like random uncle. He gets the shots the couple didn't know what was happening and the photog doesn't have the family knowledge to even realize the significance and take the shot.

AquaPython · 10-20-2011, 02:49 PM

Last wedding I was at, the photog team was walking around with some big glass. a couple 200+mm lenses and some shorter ones obviously as well, like the 24-70 L

Archren · 10-20-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip

I like random uncle. He gets the shots the couple didn't know what was happening and the photog doesn't have the family knowledge to even realize the significance and take the shot.

Personally I don't have a problem with it, other than the portraits - everything else is fair game, IMO.

That being said, depending on the uncle or friend with a fancy DSLR, whether or not they really know how to use the camera is another story entirely. I had a DSLR for two years before I started this bachelor program. I'm not even a full year into it, but I'm already shocked at just how much I did NOT know about my camera and how to compose photographs, how to work with models, how to use lighting, et cetera, ad nauseum. So much to the point where coworkers have asked me to shoot their weddings, and while I agreed to do it, I refuse any payment they offer because I don't consider myself a "pro" just yet.

Kaneman · 10-20-2011, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip

I like random uncle. He gets the shots the couple didn't know what was happening and the photog doesn't have the family knowledge to even realize the significance and take the shot.

No, a good wedding photographer knows the family dynamics, who is who, who is dying soon, what events are significant, so on and so forth. Certainly not to say random uncle can't get some great shots though.

Trip · 10-20-2011, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Archren

Personally I don't have a problem with it, other than the portraits - everything else is fair game, IMO.

That being said, depending on the uncle or friend with a fancy DSLR, whether or not they really know how to use the camera is another story entirely. I had a DSLR for two years before I started this bachelor program. I'm not even a full year into it, but I'm already shocked at just how much I did NOT know about my camera and how to compose photographs, how to work with models, how to use lighting, et cetera, ad nauseum. So much to the point where coworkers have asked me to shoot their weddings, and while I agreed to do it, I refuse any payment they offer because I don't consider myself a "pro" just yet.

That's nice, you can know all that shit, but if you still aren't in the right place at the right time knowing the right dynamic, you can still miss the shot.

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Originally Posted by Kaneman

No, a good wedding photographer knows the family dynamics, who is who, who is dying soon, what events are significant, so on and so forth. Certainly not to say random uncle can't get some great shots though.

BS - sorry, you can't memorize the entire guest list and know exactly what is going on. If you do, you must only shoot a few weddings a year for people you know. That's all I was saying was random uncle sometimes get the shots that the couple will love the most.

Papa_Complex · 10-20-2011, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman

No, a good wedding photographer knows the family dynamics, who is who, who is dying soon, what events are significant, so on and so forth. Certainly not to say random uncle can't get some great shots though.

A good wedding photographer is as much a manager, as a photographer. You don't need to have specific knowledge, if you can co-opt someone who does have it.

As to the interactions between people, it seems that a fair number of wedding photogs don't do candids. They stick to the rote routine shots, with their personal touches to them, and leave it at that.

Smittie61984 · 10-20-2011, 05:49 PM

Since there seem to be some camera people on here I have a question. High-speed cameras or slow-motion cameras (whatever you call it). Can you get a camera that'll take or shoot a video where you can slow it down for high-detail slow motion stuff (like you see on mythbusters). Or are they out of reach expensive becuase you have to get a MIT engineer to whip one up for you. I'm not needing one that'll let me watch a nuclear explosion unfold over a 5hour period. But kind of like the Isle of Man TT slow motoin stuff or what they used on Jackass 3.

Papa_Complex · 10-20-2011, 06:06 PM

The high speed camera, that's used by Mythbusters, is in the $6K to $10K range. There are cheaper alternatives, but you won't be getting that quality of video.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/19583...amera_fun.html

10-20-2011, 05:49 PM	#19
Smittie61984 I give Squids a bad name Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fly Over State Moto: 1996 CBR600 F3 (AKA the Flying Turd) Posts: 4,742	Since there seem to be some camera people on here I have a question. High-speed cameras or slow-motion cameras (whatever you call it). Can you get a camera that'll take or shoot a video where you can slow it down for high-detail slow motion stuff (like you see on mythbusters). Or are they out of reach expensive becuase you have to get a MIT engineer to whip one up for you. I'm not needing one that'll let me watch a nuclear explosion unfold over a 5hour period. But kind of like the Isle of Man TT slow motoin stuff or what they used on Jackass 3. __________________ lifts - R.I.P.

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Papa_Complex Nomadic Tribesman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Brampton, Canada Moto: '09 ER-6n Posts: 11,150	The high speed camera, that's used by Mythbusters, is in the $6K to $10K range. There are cheaper alternatives, but you won't be getting that quality of video. http://www.pcworld.com/article/19583...amera_fun.html __________________ "Everything's better with pirates." - Lodge, "Dorkness Rising" http://www.morallyambiguous.net/

10-20-2011, 02:45 PM	#13
Trip Hold mah beer! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: 80 Miles South of Moto Heaven Moto: 08 R1200GS Posts: 23,268	I like random uncle. He gets the shots the couple didn't know what was happening and the photog doesn't have the family knowledge to even realize the significance and take the shot.