Go Back   Two Wheel Fix > General > News Desk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-18-2010, 12:45 PM   #11
CasterTroy
................
 
CasterTroy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: NC
Posts: 3,028
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pauldun170 View Post
In order to do that here, they would need trained professionals.
Trained professionals, preferably officers and not some private company chosen because it was the lowest bidder.

Politicians and tea baggers would bitch and complain and demand that such jobs be handled by private free market blah blah blah not by career professionals or highly trained lifers.

Thats why we try and avoid this argument by saying robots and technology will do it better.
100%

I've never flown and NOT had my checked luggage opened, and shuffled thru.

When I came back from Honduras I had a machette for my son and we left Honduras with no problem...but ATL they searched the bag twice
__________________
“Being tolerant does not mean that I share another one’s belief. But it does mean that I acknowledge another one’s right to believe, and obey, his own conscience.”
Viktor Frankl
CasterTroy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2010, 12:49 PM   #12
Homeslice
Elitist
 
Homeslice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
Moto: Gix 750
Posts: 11,351
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KSGregman View Post
Not this



Or this
Why don't you feel chemical sniffers would be valuable (assuming they worked and could be set up to operate continuously)?

And I'd say I've probably only had my bags checked 2-3% of the time.
Homeslice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2010, 01:10 PM   #13
derf
token jewboy
 
derf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Moto: CBR 900, KLR ugly ass duckling, Gas Man
Posts: 10,799
Default

I've had my bag checked for chemicals a few times, and it always comes up positive. BUT i use my bag for work, and I carry ammunition (live and blanks), clips, and other stuff exposed to gunpowder and explosives in it on a regualr basis. They check it, ask for a reason my bag has those chemical, rummage through it and move on. I also always carry a disposable razor, big toothpaste bottle, lighter, nail clippers, and once in a while a cheapo knife and generally whatever I feel like bring on.

The system doesnt work now, so why not take a new and different approach to it? Or should we just continue to throw money at something that is already broken?
__________________
derf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2010, 01:23 PM   #14
CasterTroy
................
 
CasterTroy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: NC
Posts: 3,028
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by derf View Post
The system doesnt work now, so why not take a new and different approach to it? Or should we just continue to throw money at something that is already broken?
See court system, See also Congress, Senate, Presidency, DMV, DOT & prison & school system
__________________
“Being tolerant does not mean that I share another one’s belief. But it does mean that I acknowledge another one’s right to believe, and obey, his own conscience.”
Viktor Frankl
CasterTroy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2010, 01:34 PM   #15
KSGregman
Get Fit...or Get OUT
 
KSGregman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: KS
Moto: 07 M109-R
Posts: 1,993
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Homeslice View Post
Why don't you feel chemical sniffers would be valuable (assuming they worked and could be set up to operate continuously)?

I didn't say they wouldn't be valuable....as much as I believe that the "softer" security measures such as profiling, behavioral and otherwise, would be FAR more effective in identifying WHO the problem people really are while leaving the VAST majority of people moving through the airport far more free than they (we?) are currently.
KSGregman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2010, 03:33 PM   #16
Homeslice
Elitist
 
Homeslice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
Moto: Gix 750
Posts: 11,351
Default

I have no problem with the "softer" approach you suggest, looking for people acting suspicious......AS LONG AS how someone is dressed or what color their skin is isn't one of the factors used.

I also think the backscatter machines, at what, $300,000 a pop last I heard? Are a waste of taxpayer dollars, when the only thing they would have prevented was the Underwear bomber. They would NOT have prevented someone from carrying something up their ass, or more importantly, in their bag.
Homeslice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2010, 04:42 PM   #17
Kaneman
AMA Supersport
 
Kaneman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Odessa, TX
Moto: 2000 Honda CBR1100XX Blackbird
Posts: 4,931
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KSGregman View Post
that paying more attention to the types of people who have attacked us in the past might make sense?
You mean like Govt' officials?
__________________
1982 Honda XR80 - blown motor, 1993 Kawasaki ZX6D - sold, 2001 Suzuki Bandit 1200S - sold, 1984 Honda Magna - sold, 2001 Kawasaki ZRX1200R - blown motor, 2007 Suzuki DL1000 V-Strom - totalled, 2003 Yamaha FZ1 - sold, 1994 Honda Magna - sold, 2001 Honda CBR600F4i - sold, 1998 Suzuki DR350 - stolen, 1989 Honda Super Magna - sold, 2007 Yamaha Stratoliner, 2000 Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird
Kaneman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2010, 05:28 PM   #18
derf
token jewboy
 
derf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Moto: CBR 900, KLR ugly ass duckling, Gas Man
Posts: 10,799
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CasterTroy View Post
See court system, See also Congress, Senate, Presidency, DMV, DOT & prison & school system
So what you are saying is that there is a historical presedense for this?

I totally agree, its beaurocricy at its worst. Its the traditional government excuse, lets throw money at this and it will fix itself.
__________________
derf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2010, 09:39 AM   #19
KSGregman
Get Fit...or Get OUT
 
KSGregman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: KS
Moto: 07 M109-R
Posts: 1,993
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaneman View Post
You mean like Govt' officials?
KSGregman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2010, 10:06 AM   #20
pauldun170
Serious Business
 
pauldun170's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: New York
Moto: 1993 ZX-11 2008 CBR1000rr
Posts: 9,723
Default

http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/11/sa...pt-out-of.html
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave View Post
feed your dogs root beer it will make them grow large and then you can ride them and pet the motorcycle while drinking root beer
pauldun170 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:06 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.