Will California become America's first failed state? - Page 2

RACER X · 10-06-2009, 04:20 PM

OE would prolly work best.

karl_1052 · 10-06-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RACER X

cool, bike was bought this way, it's way tall for my 29" inseam....lol

Send me the links then!

RACER X · 10-06-2009, 04:39 PM

i like the way the bike handles w/ them.........lol

i don't stop much in my 10 mi commute.....lol

101lifts2 · 10-06-2009, 04:57 PM

This is my take....Liberals.... you made your bed, now sleep the fuck in it.

You have given to the clueless for far too fucking long instead of giving to the hopeless. You cater to illegals, but punish the buisnessess with God awful amount of taxes who are your bread and butter. How long did you really expect this to last? Do you realize you cannot give 80% pay to teachers, police and firefighters for retirement? It just doesn't work.

You have given so much money to the poor via food stamps, unemployment and medical care that now they think they deserve it. Fuck u liberals you fucked it all up. But don't blame Arnold. He voted conservatively for what he could, but what the hell can one do when the entire CA legislation is so far left that they think money grows on trees?

I pray to God that the people of this state wise up and vote in a majority Republican/Libertarian legislation. But...since half these minorities depend on entitlements, I doubt the sheep will change and the state will continue to fall.

How long u been on unemployment, 3 years? And now it's gone? Tuff shit. Consider the extra 2 years you shouldn't of got a gift. Have 6 kids, been livin' on the county with a 300 buck per kid stipen and now it's not there? Again, tuff shit. Consider the money you shouldn't have got in the first place a gift.

Homeslice · 10-06-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2

How long did you really expect this to last? Do you realize you cannot give 80% pay to teachers, police and firefighters for retirement? It just doesn't work.
.

This isn't just a liberal issue. I doubt you'll find too many conservatives who would dare suggest that police, firefighter, or military pensions be reduced. After all, conservatives have a reputation to protect (being "more patriotic" than liberals).

RACER X · 10-06-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

This isn't just a liberal issue. I doubt you'll find too many conservatives who would dare suggest that police, firefighter, or military pensions be reduced. After all, conservatives have a reputation to protect (being "more patriotic" than liberals).

is that all you have to say about the state of affairs of your beloved state........

Homeslice · 10-06-2009, 07:41 PM

People are free to leave if they don't like how their state gov't is spending their money, right? Yet people still stay here and come here, hmm wonder why. Maybe because this place offers a good lifestyle and the largest number of things to do in your spare time. Gotta pay to play.

101lifts2 · 10-06-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

This isn't just a liberal issue. I doubt you'll find too many conservatives who would dare suggest that police, firefighter, or military pensions be reduced. After all, conservatives have a reputation to protect (being "more patriotic" than liberals).

Then they are by definition not conservative.

tached1000rr · 10-06-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rider

Yep we have the highest unemployment in the nation by a large margin.

28% last I heard

101lifts2 · 10-06-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

People are free to leave if they don't like how their state gov't is spending their money, right? Yet people still stay here and come here, hmm wonder why. Maybe because this place offers a good lifestyle and the largest number of things to do in your spare time. Gotta pay to play.

That is the point Hans. Buisnesses are leaving in droves and half the state is dependant upon the government. The "pay to play" is total horseshit. If I'm paying, the government in CA better be making the best use of my money. How well the state is cleaned or number of things to do in your spare time has little to do with the deficeit crisis we are in now.

10-06-2009, 04:20 PM	#11
RACER X AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Richmond, Tx Moto: '10 Tuono Factory Posts: 4,569	OE would prolly work best. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ 2014 GROM! 181cc of FURY 2010 Aprilia Tuono Factory - SOLD 2009 SFV Gladius - SOLD 2008 Hayabusa - SOLD.

10-06-2009, 04:39 PM	#13
RACER X AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Richmond, Tx Moto: '10 Tuono Factory Posts: 4,569	i like the way the bike handles w/ them.........lol i don't stop much in my 10 mi commute.....lol __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ 2014 GROM! 181cc of FURY 2010 Aprilia Tuono Factory - SOLD 2009 SFV Gladius - SOLD 2008 Hayabusa - SOLD.

10-06-2009, 04:57 PM	#14
101lifts2 WSB Champion Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Anaheim, CA Moto: 2009 Kawi ZX6R Posts: 5,570	This is my take....Liberals.... you made your bed, now sleep the fuck in it. You have given to the clueless for far too fucking long instead of giving to the hopeless. You cater to illegals, but punish the buisnessess with God awful amount of taxes who are your bread and butter. How long did you really expect this to last? Do you realize you cannot give 80% pay to teachers, police and firefighters for retirement? It just doesn't work. You have given so much money to the poor via food stamps, unemployment and medical care that now they think they deserve it. Fuck u liberals you fucked it all up. But don't blame Arnold. He voted conservatively for what he could, but what the hell can one do when the entire CA legislation is so far left that they think money grows on trees? I pray to God that the people of this state wise up and vote in a majority Republican/Libertarian legislation. But...since half these minorities depend on entitlements, I doubt the sheep will change and the state will continue to fall. How long u been on unemployment, 3 years? And now it's gone? Tuff shit. Consider the extra 2 years you shouldn't of got a gift. Have 6 kids, been livin' on the county with a 300 buck per kid stipen and now it's not there? Again, tuff shit. Consider the money you shouldn't have got in the first place a gift. __________________ Train Hard Ron Paul - 2012 Mark of Excellence GM Last edited by 101lifts2; 10-06-2009 at 05:04 PM..

10-06-2009, 07:41 PM	#17
Homeslice Elitist Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Moto: Gix 750 Posts: 11,351	People are free to leave if they don't like how their state gov't is spending their money, right? Yet people still stay here and come here, hmm wonder why. Maybe because this place offers a good lifestyle and the largest number of things to do in your spare time. Gotta pay to play.