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Old 03-22-2010, 02:42 AM   #11
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WTF are student loans doing in this bill? So now the loans can't be adminstered by banks anymore? How does that benefit students? Banks have always been required to hold the interest rates at federally-mandated standards anyway, so why is more gov't adminstration needed?

I swear this bill was so big most people didn't even know what was in it anymore.
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Old 03-22-2010, 03:17 AM   #12
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Honestly, I think this bill was more about passing a LOT of other hidden legislation than actually helping reform healthcare.
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Old 03-22-2010, 08:57 AM   #13
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"Calm down citizens...We are here to help!"...1600 new IRS agents to help oversee and administer fines and aid, we are fucked.
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Old 03-22-2010, 09:44 AM   #14
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OK so, cliff notes? I honestly haven't been paying attention to this health Care reform bill at all. So the bottom line is what? What is it going to do for me? I already have good health insurance.
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Old 03-22-2010, 10:27 AM   #15
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OK so, cliff notes? I honestly haven't been paying attention to this health Care reform bill at all. So the bottom line is what? What is it going to do for me? I already have good health insurance.
it's going to cost you LOL

just BS'ing I'm in the same boat as you. although my dad who is laid off and not old enough for medicare, and my son who is working a crap job with no bennies right now will both be affected.
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Old 03-22-2010, 10:39 AM   #16
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"Calm down citizens...We are here to help!"...1600 new IRS agents to help oversee and administer fines and aid, we are fucked.
You might want to check your numbers as I believe it is 16,000 new IRS agents.
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Old 03-22-2010, 10:42 AM   #17
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oh boy - all hell is going to break loose.
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Old 03-22-2010, 10:43 AM   #18
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OK so, cliff notes? I honestly haven't been paying attention to this health Care reform bill at all. So the bottom line is what? What is it going to do for me? I already have good health insurance.
For most people with good (but not great) insurance it will not change much of anything, for the better or the worse.
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:47 PM   #19
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They need a version 2.0 ASAP.
Too many asshole chugged it up with nonsense and the BS the GOP pulled screwed over republican ideas.

Personally,
I would have rather seen:
- Single Payer Gov't option
- Gov't subsidies on medical schools\tuition. (I can understand why AMA would be hesitant against this because in the long run it would drive down compensation - if Med school is cheaper and more candidates enter the job market).

Gov't option provides baseline level of protection and then private industry can fill in with upmarket or niche products. I would then reduce regulation of private insurers.
If they want to drop you because you are high risk then so be it.

Malpractice award limits are a whole other can beans and peronally I'm unsypathetic to the rhetoric after seeing some of the info I have seen.

Freeing up insurers to go across state lines would end up disasterous. you'd would then see the formation of behemoths as small insurers get gobbled up and competition would disappear.
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Old 03-22-2010, 01:03 PM   #20
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Honestly, I think this bill was more about passing a LOT of other hidden legislation than actually helping reform healthcare.
Well, since so much money has been thrown at these cats from the insurance industry, I suppose it's not until the fucking reach-arounds actually outweigh that shit, do the motherfuckers vote correctly.

We gotta get the corporate money influence out of Washington, and get our goddamn Democracy back, or moves like this will become the ONLY means of getting shit done.
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