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View Poll Results: Should they be able to search your phone? | |||
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04-20-2011, 11:39 AM | #1 |
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Remember they actually have to plug into your phone....so just have it on you and tell them NO.
Like fucking Gestapo.
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04-20-2011, 11:42 AM | #2 |
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IIRC, If you have the bluetooth turned on with several of the newer smart phones and you don't have your phone set up to not automatically pair it's open. Same with phones that have wifi set up to automatically connect.
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04-20-2011, 01:16 PM | #3 |
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OK, I assumed it worked wirelessly. If they have to physically plug in to the phone no question it should be ruled an illegal search.
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04-20-2011, 09:25 PM | #4 | |
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I also assumed it worked wirelessly. However, even if it has to be plugged in, they need your permission to scan the phone, just like they need your permission to search your trunk. That requires probable cause, and frankly, I say the search requires a warrant. |
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04-21-2011, 09:16 PM | #5 | |
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04-22-2011, 12:22 AM | #6 | |
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A cell generally pings cell towers that are close every X number of seconds when not in use, it sends out automatically that phones designation to the network letting it know where it is so that it can be reached if a call or text comes in. Smart phones get more data than that based on the programs installed on the phone, facebook, mail, and any other programs. When the phone pings the nearest tower letting it know where it is it requests data based on what applications you have, generally its just a request for information. The caveat is that some of your applications that you download can automatically update information on the internet based on those pesky useage agreement that you never read but agreed to (which is what happened with the iphone location data). Your phone also automatically pings the network when you turn it on/enable screen/open the flip/wake up whatever its called. I have been told that google maps gets its semi accurate traffic data from a mix of DOT (mostly in populated areas and on major roads) collected traffic data and users cell phone signals and gps signals. When you have GPS enabled it will update the network on your speed and location, when it is dissabled it will ping towers and google is notified of your time from tower A to tower B and figures out your average speed, and the same for others around you. The more users reporting conditions in each area, the more accurate the current maps data is. The reality is that if you are scared of your life being data mined you need to get rid of credit cards, cell phones, any car made after 2007, and shut any services to your house. Even using cash to buy money orders to pay bills generates information about you, that money order is traced to the purchase location by the bank who cashes it on behalf of the seller so western union could staff and stock the location better based on the number of end users patronizing the location. Basically if you are this worried about your privacy in the modern digital age the only choice you have is to sneak off into the woods and build yourself a log cabin and live off the land. Remember to not live on land you own, or let anyone know you live there or the park ranger will enter a conversation log into his computer and the cia will find you again.
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04-22-2011, 12:28 AM | #7 |
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found this, its from last year but i'm assuming the info is correct.
http://www.brighthub.com/hubfolio/jo...les/46896.aspx google transmits over the network your speed, so theoretically a cop can intercept that transmition as you drive by and focus in on you based on what your phone tells them, or confirms what they observed based on requested phone data. I do know that in 99% of the cases out there GPS data is thrown out in court as a way of defending someone. I would assume that police would get the same standard, but I do believe that they would be given free reign to use any gps info collected from your phone sending info out.
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04-20-2011, 09:53 PM | #8 | |
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"Give me your phone" "No" Easy...
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04-20-2011, 11:41 PM | #9 |
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while I totally agree with what everybody is saying that this is an illegal search, it also leads to a ticket for contempt of cop. Remember you are guilty until proven that you truly are guilty.
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04-21-2011, 01:25 PM | #10 |
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Fixed.
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