Maintenance - schedule or whenever? - Page 2

derf · 04-03-2010, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tached1000rr

In terms of seals, its purpose is to prevent fluid from leaking, if its not leaking then I see no reason to mess with it unless it's one of those deals where you are already pulling something apart that would necessitate removal of the part anyway. Just me....

Spoken like a man who knows his shit.

Why mess with something unless its broken? I'll look at the forks to see if there is oil on them, if the bike acts funny I'll look into it. New noises are always worth investigating, and anything that isn't the same as yesterday gets a look at. But i'm not going to tear apart the front end of the bike to change fork seals because I rolled 10k miles

Gas Man · 04-04-2010, 05:15 AM

Honestly... that is your stand on forks. Better recheck it.

The reason you tear into a fork that is not leaking is... well actually 2 reasons.

1. To prevent from leaking, as stated.
2. To put in new bushings. At which point you have to pull apart forks anyway, and only a moron would use old parts like seals then.

Don't replace the bushings... well that's not so smart. The bushing is what the leg rides against in the fork lower. Once it wears off its brass its done and will start to eat away the fork lower. Not good. That is why you service your forks before they start leaking.

Need more?

Example... here is the fork bushings on my chopper at 6k miles. I only did them cause they were off the bike anyway. But they weren't due till 10k. You can laready see the worn effect on the bushing.

Further, the fork oil was horrible

So then new parts and new oil...

tached1000rr · 04-04-2010, 08:30 AM

An evil chopper like you had Gasman would eat its children!

Sportbikes are just not that evil.

)

Case in point, Jared has what 177,000 miles last I know of, ask how many times his forks or fork seals have been replaced over the course of those miles. He had just had them rebuilt roughly a month before his unfortunate accident.

MILK · 04-05-2010, 03:44 PM

I planned on following the maintenance schedule. But then I rode Lucy to the beach the first week I had her and blew the initial mileage checkup.

When I came back for my 'first oil change' 2 weeks after buying the bike the guy that sold it to me asked if I was back because I wrecked. Whatever.

I do follow a loose schedule of my own. I also quiz the mechanic when I'm in to make sure I'm not forgetting something important!!

marko138 · 04-04-2010, 08:24 AM

My forks will be done on schedule. Leaking or not.

Gas Man · 04-04-2010, 04:51 PM

That is true and a good point tach. But honestly I'm just explaining the works of it all. I can post pics of bushings off my 9R later when on my pc.

Cutty72 · 04-04-2010, 04:59 PM

What is this maintenance you speak of?

racedoll · 04-04-2010, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man

Honestly... that is your stand on forks. Better recheck it.

The reason you tear into a fork that is not leaking is... well actually 2 reasons.

1. To prevent from leaking, as stated.
2. To put in new bushings. At which point you have to pull apart forks anyway, and only a moron would use old parts like seals then.

Don't replace the bushings... well that's not so smart. The bushing is what the leg rides against in the fork lower. Once it wears off its brass its done and will start to eat away the fork lower. Not good. That is why you service your forks before they start leaking.

My thoughts exactly, but as tached proved, we don't all think the same way. That is why I posted this thread to see what kind of answers I would get.

My forks have bushings but if they need replaced then I will be replacing the entire fork body as they are non-replaceable on their own. Erik's are the same way. Parts guy even called Kayaba to see if they sold something. Nope. So just seals for us, but I guess you could inspect the bushing at that time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tached1000rr

Case in point, Jared has what 177,000 miles last I know of, ask how many times his forks or fork seals have been replaced over the course of those miles. He had just had them rebuilt roughly a month before his unfortunate accident.

Calm down. As I mentioned above we each do things differently and I wanted to see what others had to say. Neither way is right or wrong, just our way.

tached1000rr · 04-04-2010, 07:56 PM

Racedoll, did my response sound like I was upset? If so, let me clarify that I was not.

Dave · 04-04-2010, 07:58 PM

eh, i fix things when the bike tells me too

04-04-2010, 05:15 AM	#2
Gas Man Trip's Assistant Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Imported from Detroit Moto: 2009 HD Street Classic Posts: 12,149	Honestly... that is your stand on forks. Better recheck it. The reason you tear into a fork that is not leaking is... well actually 2 reasons. 1. To prevent from leaking, as stated. 2. To put in new bushings. At which point you have to pull apart forks anyway, and only a moron would use old parts like seals then. Don't replace the bushings... well that's not so smart. The bushing is what the leg rides against in the fork lower. Once it wears off its brass its done and will start to eat away the fork lower. Not good. That is why you service your forks before they start leaking. Need more? Example... here is the fork bushings on my chopper at 6k miles. I only did them cause they were off the bike anyway. But they weren't due till 10k. You can laready see the worn effect on the bushing. Further, the fork oil was horrible So then new parts and new oil... __________________ -Chris "Why pay somebody else to fuck up your bike?" Run Amsoil Product

04-04-2010, 08:30 AM	#3
tached1000rr WERA White Plate Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NC Moto: 2009 GSXR 1300 Posts: 2,448	An evil chopper like you had Gasman would eat its children! Sportbikes are just not that evil.) Case in point, Jared has what 177,000 miles last I know of, ask how many times his forks or fork seals have been replaced over the course of those miles. He had just had them rebuilt roughly a month before his unfortunate accident.

04-05-2010, 03:44 PM	#4
MILK The cows want you dead. Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 2,087	I planned on following the maintenance schedule. But then I rode Lucy to the beach the first week I had her and blew the initial mileage checkup. When I came back for my 'first oil change' 2 weeks after buying the bike the guy that sold it to me asked if I was back because I wrecked. Whatever. I do follow a loose schedule of my own. I also quiz the mechanic when I'm in to make sure I'm not forgetting something important!!

04-04-2010, 08:24 AM	#5
marko138 DefenderOfTheBuelliverse Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Parts Unknown Moto: Buell XB12R Posts: 18,585	My forks will be done on schedule. Leaking or not.

04-04-2010, 04:51 PM	#6
Gas Man Trip's Assistant Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Imported from Detroit Moto: 2009 HD Street Classic Posts: 12,149	That is true and a good point tach. But honestly I'm just explaining the works of it all. I can post pics of bushings off my 9R later when on my pc.

04-04-2010, 07:56 PM	#9
tached1000rr WERA White Plate Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NC Moto: 2009 GSXR 1300 Posts: 2,448	Racedoll, did my response sound like I was upset? If so, let me clarify that I was not.

04-04-2010, 07:58 PM	#10
Dave Chaotic Neutral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Moto: GV1200 Madura, Hawk gt Posts: 13,992	eh, i fix things when the bike tells me too