Screw you guys....we're going home or afghanistan or somewhere

[EpyonXero]

Originally Posted by derf

Not talking about US Services, and the impact on us. Do you think the rape, murder, imprisonment, torture rate went up or down since saddam, left power?

Even at the worst point in iraq security the average iraqi had a better chance of survival than during saddams reign. He really was a bad man, and the country was a labels place for those in charge, meaning that they didn't obey the laws.

The only difference? We have a pretty open society where reporters are not told what to report on, so they go are headline news. Rape! Torture! Death!

Under saddam it was Saddam is great! The party is great! 99% of the population voted for Saddam again!

Im calling BS on that one. Saddam was evil but he did have control of his country. People were free to worship whoever they wanted and women could work and go to school. There wasnt sectarian mass murder.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by EpyonXero

Im calling BS on that one. Saddam was evil but he did have control of his country. People were free to worship whoever they wanted and women could work and go to school. There wasnt sectarian mass murder.

You gotta be fucking kidding me

[Archren]

Originally Posted by EpyonXero

Im calling BS on that one. Saddam was evil but he did have control of his country. People were free to worship whoever they wanted and women could work and go to school. There wasnt sectarian mass murder.

REALLY dude? Have you ever heard of the Kurds in northern Iraq?? Al-Anfal Campaign mean anything to you? Here, I'll even give you a link.

[Sixxxxer]

It's not gonna end happy for the Vets/Currently Active Military Vs. the Civies and arguing about the war and whats right and whats wrong.

With that being said...America is known for being the biggest baddest best Military in the world. In short...Thats why we go everywhere we arent wanted.

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by Dave

You gotta be fucking kidding me

I think he meant, there were no mass murders other than the one's Saddam
himself was in charge of.

We didn't have any hot Shi'a on Sunni action, like we do now.

JC

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by Archren

REALLY dude? Have you ever heard of the Kurds in northern Iraq?? Al-Anfal Campaign mean anything to you? Here, I'll even give you a link.

How would you have handled a separatist movement?

[Archren]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

How would you have handled a separatist movement?

I'm not exactly qualified to offer a solution (here in America, we usually just ignore them.. I know Texans who would prefer to secede from the union, but we're still here ), but I do know that genocide/systematic killing of both militants AND noncombatant civilians by their own government is not really the right way to go about things.

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

How would you have handled a separatist movement?

That wasn't a separatist movement, that was, um, FREEDOM CAMPING!, yeah, Freedom Camping, bitches.

JC

[Dave]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

I think he meant, there were no mass murders other than the one's Saddam
himself was in charge of.

We didn't have any hot Shi'a on Sunni action, like we do now.

JC

I quit

[Sixxxxer]

I know it's your Life's work Dave...But I'm 99% sure JC was kidding with that last one...