Holy Sheet... Spec Tire In Motogp

[Rider]

I think a spec tire will be good for MotoGP. Now I can sot back and watch Rossi pwn everyone.

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by Rider

I think a spec tire will be good for MotoGP. Now I can sot back and watch Rossi pwn everyone.

yeah no shit. wonder if we'll see a Dovitisoso, DeAngelis, and some of the other mich riders up front more

[pickle.of.doom]

I think MCN is jumping the gun on this story, so I wouldn't get your hopes up too much yet.



And 0 competition for a tire company is not a good thing... Spec tires may be a good thing in WSBK just for something different... but MotoGP is about the best of the best of everything, going to a spec tire is a total step in the wrong direction. Why not spec engines then? Or spec bikes? How about make it so they are all on the same bike with the rider/weight combo all the same like in the rookies cup?

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by pickle.of.doom

I think MCN is jumping the gun on this story, so I wouldn't get your hopes up too much yet.



And 0 competition for a tire company is not a good thing... Spec tires may be a good thing in WSBK just for something different... but MotoGP is about the best of the best of everything, going to a spec tire is a total step in the wrong direction. Why not spec engines then? Or spec bikes? How about make it so they are all on the same bike with the rider/weight combo all the same like in the rookies cup?

that's why I wanted to see a policy where each race in practice they take what ever tire posted the fastest times... and use that make for that race... could vary between each track... but it'd prevent a cluster fuck like Bruno was, while still keeping competition alive between the tire manufactures...

[PiZdETS]

Originally Posted by Ebbs15

that's why I wanted to see a policy where each race in practice they take what ever tire posted the fastest times... and use that make for that race... could vary between each track... but it'd prevent a cluster fuck like Bruno was, while still keeping competition alive between the tire manufactures...

Nah cant do that, some bikes like the Ducati will favor a certain compound over the Honda and then each rider may like a different construction from everyone else. A supersoft compound may work perfectly for DeAngelis while his teammate can't get the hang of it at all.
Hopefully Bridgestone will continue coming up with different makes for each team but when they become the only maker they really don't have to try hard at all. They're the spec tire maker in F1 though and aside from lots of punctures they do pretty well.

For sure when the one make tire rule comes into effect you will see less of a tumbling times effect where the lap records are reset at every track, every year by quite a margin.
Hopefully it will bring the racers all closer together as it was designed to do.

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by PiZdETS

Nah cant do that, some bikes like the Ducati will favor a certain compound over the Honda and then each rider may like a different construction from everyone else. A supersoft compound may work perfectly for DeAngelis while his teammate can't get the hang of it at all.
Hopefully Bridgestone will continue coming up with different makes for each team but when they become the only maker they really don't have to try hard at all. They're the spec tire maker in F1 though and aside from lots of punctures they do pretty well.

For sure when the one make tire rule comes into effect you will see less of a tumbling times effect where the lap records are reset at every track, every year by quite a margin.
Hopefully it will bring the racers all closer together as it was designed to do.

well I just meant make... not compound... the teams would still have a choice of compound... but they'd have to chose only from the manufacture who had the best time... so tire choice by teams still comes into play... but you don't have a "bruno" again

[smileyman]

Bottom line is the team with the best electronic package to take advantage of whichever rubber was present would be fastest. It is a wonderful idea to try and balance the field but in the end teh team that has the technical advantages, like in Formula One, will find their way to the front again.

Now in WSBK the spec tire closed the ranks a good bit but primarily because even though tractioon control and electronic aids are present they are not at the level of the MotoGP systems...

[Mr Lefty]

looks as though everything is going Honda's way... where it'll be the bike not the rider who wins... all this traction control bs... I say bring back the 500cc two strokes and call it good!

[Mr Lefty]

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...ichelin-talks/

if it doesn't go... Stoner could be on Mich next year... bet that makes him happy!

[Mr Lefty]

confirmed!!!
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2008/G...+rule+for+2009

In a meeting at the Motegi circuit on Sunday morning the Grand Prix Commission decided unanimously that there will be a single tyre supplier in the MotoGP class as of 2009.

For safety and cost reasons, the Grand Prix Commission, composed of Messrs. Carmelo Ezpeleta (Dorna, Chairman), Claude Danis (FIM), Herve Poncharal (IRTA) and Takanao Tsubouchi (MSMA), in the presence of Mr. Paul Butler (Secretary of the meeting), in a meeting held today at the circuit of Motegi, unanimously decided to introduce the following change to the FIM Road Racing World Championship Grand Prix Regulations:
The Grand Prix Commission has decided unanimously that there will be a single tyre supplier for the MotoGP class from 2009. Proposals to supply the tyres must be handed to the FIM and Dorna by 3rd October at the latest. The final decision will be announced by the GP Commission by 18th October at the latest.
Mr. Ezpeleta commented, `We postponed the decision until today so that we could get more ideas and opinions about it. Finally we decided, the Grand Prix Commission, unanimously, for safety reasons and to reduce costs that we would go to a one tyre rule. Now the FIM ask for a tender, which means that the tyre manufacturers who are interested in competing for the tender must send their offers before next Saturday. From there we will study the different offers and then no later than 18th October the Grand Prix Commission will decide who will supply the tyres.´