Occupy Wall Street Demands

[Smittie61984]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

were wrong the other half. 3/5ths of a man? Yeah, that sounds about right...Assholes.

JC

Hahahahaha. Did someone just throw the race card?


The argument was wether to have a more central government or be a federation of states. Picture it more like one side saying they want all power in the federal and the other wanting to be more like the U.N. Then they met in the middle.

The issue of Democracy was never an issue from either side. It wasn't an issue until politicans realized that they could say "democracy" and it made voters feel all warm and tingly in their pants.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by derf

He did in fact get a good job, that pays pretty good (shitty schedule though) and should have his school bill paid off in 3 years. but with a 80k/yr +commission for jobs income he still considers himself 99% (even has a picture holding up one of those nifty hand written signs)

3 years total, or 3 more years?

[shmike]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

3 years total, or 3 more years?

Yeah.

I want to see how these numbers work...

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by Smittie61984

Hahahahaha. Did someone just throw the race card?


The argument was wether to have a more central government or be a federation of states. Picture it more like one side saying they want all power in the federal and the other wanting to be more like the U.N. Then they met in the middle.

The issue of Democracy was never an issue from either side. It wasn't an issue until politicans realized that they could say "democracy" and it made voters feel all warm and tingly in their pants.

what I find lulzy is when certain people start talking about the founding fathers and the bill of rights and how we should stick to a "to the letter" interpretation of the way it was originally written (because amendments and changes since 1850 are for queers).

The bill of right was neither intended nor interpreted (at the time) to apply to citizens...or states. It originally applied only to the federal government.
The federal government cannot pass laws that butt heads with the bill of rights. The states however can say "fuck that shit" and restrict freedom of speech...gun rights...all that crap.

So whenever you start talking constitutional origins, you are effectively talking about that period of time when the bill of rights did not apply to state citizens.
"Hi!! I'm a constitutional conservative!! I do not believe you have the right to free speech, the right to pop a cap in an ass..the right to tell a soldier to fuck off...the right to a jury trial.. all sthat fun stuff.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.

Know what that bit means?

It means that (up until the 14th amendment)...the federal government could give two shits about what the fuck a state does to its citizens and would rather not be involved in all that business. At most they would invoke the commerce clause to get states from getting all up in each others skirts.

Come motherfucker...lets talk some constitutional law!!!!

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by Smittie61984

Hahahahaha. Did someone just throw the race card?

No, someone just threw out the, "Hey, maybe these guys weren't as forward thinking as they're cracked up to be" card.

Originally Posted by Smittie61984

The argument was wether to have a more central government or be a federation of states. Picture it more like one side saying they want all power in the federal and the other wanting to be more like the U.N. Then they met in the middle.

I know. That's what the word compromise means. No cupcake for you.

Originally Posted by Smittie61984

The issue of Democracy was never an issue from either side. It wasn't an issue until politicans realized that they could say "democracy" and it made voters feel all warm and tingly in their pants.

Semantics.

Either one is a form of democracy, just not an absolute democracy, in which everybody would vote on everything.

JC

[Papa_Complex]

Screw it. I want "one man, one vote" so that my decisions have just as much weight as my license suspended for drunk driving so now he rides an e-bike neighbour.

Originally Posted by Particle Man

Pfft, scones are for wimps.

You have to earn cupcakes. Scones are free, but you have to pay for the jam.

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

You have to earn cupcakes. Scones are free, but you have to pay for the jam.

D'oh

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Particle Man

D'oh

That's how welfare should work, ya see

[Particle Man]

[derf]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

3 years total, or 3 more years?

3 total, he rents a room for 100 month, gets 3 meals a day from work when he works (3 weeks each month). And puts down a shit load every month. His commissions are pretty big, and his only other major expense is a car note for 300/month, and his bike its paid for.