Congresswoman shot in Arizona

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Avatard

The woman that tackled him was already wounded.

She's quite the fucking hero, actually.

From what I have heard and read, a woman didn't tackle him. Two dudes tackled him. A old woman grabbed the magazine from him after two dudes tackled him. She wasn't shot, but she prevented him from reloading while struggling with the two guys.

Maisch was waiting in line with her husband to get a photo with Giffords at the meet-and-greet on Saturday morning.

Two men tackled the suspect — they were identified as Roger Sulzgeber, who was also in line, and Joseph Zimudie, who was at a nearby Walgreens and heard the shooting. The shooter reached for a magazine as he struggled with the men, Maisch said.

"Somebody said 'Get the magazine!' so I got the magazine, and I was able to secure that," Maisch said. "That's what needed to be done."

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Funny thing about all the Obama-haters is..............He's actually turned out to be less liberal than either Clinton or Carter....

You tend to do that when ur a puppet of the ruling elite. He isn't running anything...

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

You tend to do that when ur a puppet of the ruling elite. He isn't running anything...

So politicians who lean to the right are all tools of the ruling elite?

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

So politicians who lean to the right are all tools of the ruling elite?

Perhaps, certaintly if they had the same gold spoon up your ass upbringing with similar mentors

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Dave

Mmm communist manifesto, mein kampf, 9-11 was an inside job, and faked space missions? What were you saying about tea parties again?

So because someone read the manifesto and mein kampf says whether they are left or right? Tons of people read things like that because they want to see how fucked up the opposing side is.

OK 9/11 maybe, but how is believing the moon landing was fake liberal or conservative?

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

So because someone read the manifesto and mein kampf says whether they are left or right? Tons of people read things like that because they want to see how fucked up the opposing side is.

OK 9/11 maybe, but how is believing the moon landing was fake liberal or conservative?

Read sure. Listed as favorite book? That's a bit different.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

So because someone read the manifesto and mein kampf says whether they are left or right? Tons of people read things like that because they want to see how fucked up the opposing side is.

OK 9/11 maybe, but how is believing the moon landing was fake liberal or conservative?

"Mein Kampf" and "The Communist Manifesto" aren't exactly what I would call congruent works. In many ways they're diametrically opposed.

If you go by what's in people's libraries then I'm an Islamic (Koran) Christian Fundamentalist (New Plain English Bible) Witch (various books on Celtic and old English mythology) Serial Killer (Catcher in the Rye). That's leaving out my books on various Asian cultures, several other religious texts, a rather extensive SF and Fantasy novel collection, the collected works of William Shakespeare....

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Here's a more detailed analysis of his beliefs. For those who are attempting to portray him as liberal, that's pretty doubtful. A lot of what's described below seems pretty teabaggish, especially the NWO conspiracy thing.

I haven't seen anyone really push him being a real lefty (I may have missed it though). If anything most of the political talk has been refuting the initial assumption, with absolutely nothing to back it up, that he is a hardcore Tea Partier who did this because Sharon Angle, Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, and Rush Limbaugh told him to. Whatever political party it ends up he supports, if he even supports one, I haven't seen anything that indicates political affiliation had anything to do with why he did this.

I haven't seen too many on the right saying he did this because of people on the left, but I have seen the regular cast of characters on the left saying he did this because of people on the right. Either way I think both groups are wrong. Everything I'm seeing indicates he did this because he was mentally unstable. That may change as the investigation continues, but even the County Sheriff who got so much play initially for blaming the fired up political rhetoric has admitted they haven't seen anything so far that backs that assertion up.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by goof2

I haven't seen anyone really push him being a real lefty (I may have missed it though). If anything most of the political talk has been refuting the initial assumption, with absolutely nothing to back it up, that he is a hardcore Tea Partier who did this because Sharon Angle, Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, and Rush Limbaugh told him to. Whatever political party it ends up he supports, if he even supports one, I haven't seen anything that indicates political affiliation had anything to do with why he did this.

I haven't seen too many on the right saying he did this because of people on the left, but I have seen the regular cast of characters on the left saying he did this because of people on the right. Either way I think both groups are wrong. Everything I'm seeing indicates he did this because he was mentally unstable. That may change as the investigation continues, but even the County Sheriff who got so much play initially for blaming the fired up political rhetoric has admitted they haven't seen anything so far that backs that assertion up.

Rational political groups don't own the acts of irrational people so, whether he 'belongs' to either Dems or Reps, his evil is his own.

As to how people are reacting to this, read the comments that are attached to this Youtube vid. I'm thinking that the gene pool could use a hefty dose of bleach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_wmsaXJKp0

[Homeslice]

Anyone who doesn't have a regular social circle is more inclined to do something like this. That and the fact that if you aren't actively involved in your community, you tend to see government as some kind of manipulative system rather than a group of human beings.