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Old 05-04-2011, 10:18 AM   #91
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At this point they arent going to stop violating our rights tho. Unless we make them stop, they aren't going to use logic, reason or a moral compass to choose a better method, they are going to continue molesting us because they can and we let them by not saying anything.
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Old 05-04-2011, 12:10 PM   #92
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TSA, just another wasted government program. Ineffective from any standpoint or objective.

Personal liberties are going to get dumped on heavily in this tech heavy and paranoid global socieety we live in. You can be tracked, filmed, fondled, eavesdropped on, and hacked by almost anyone with a rudimentary knowledge.

I imagine anyone with the right Govt Clearance can watch me as in depth as the Pres watched those SEALS take down Osama world. You think speaking out or voting the other way is gonna do you any fucking good? Do you think you could possibly rebel at this point by force or opinion.

Nah, get used to it and it is probably gonna get worse.
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Old 05-04-2011, 12:22 PM   #93
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I have a "backup" country to go to when this turns to complete shit. Of course, I've lived here for almost my entire life, and I prefer it here...used to...I don't know anymore. It's getting scary.

It's regressing. Devolving. Losing freedoms, while other emerging countries are gaining them.

I agree, it's not likely to suddenly "change back" to heading in the right direction.

I love this country. This pains me so much.

I'm conflicted. American friends have already left for Brazil! THEY say it's better there, tell me to come, that it's time to change horses. I'm stubborn. I love it here...used to...I dunno.

Just sad.
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Old 05-04-2011, 12:24 PM   #94
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Brazil wouldn't be my choice for a backup country, but you have history there, so that's understandable.

You need to try another state first.

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Old 05-04-2011, 12:27 PM   #95
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I'm not leaving...I just want my own compound, a few wives, some good brew...I think Utah is the place for me, LOL!
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Old 05-04-2011, 12:31 PM   #96
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It's ironic, Trip. My family came here in the 60s, from a Military Dictatorship, to seek true freedom. Now, I may have to return to that country in search of getting the very same freedoms (back).

So sad. I am more patriotic than any American I know. I truly love it here. There are tears in my eyes as I type this...
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Old 05-04-2011, 12:58 PM   #97
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I hear good things about Brazil actually. You can retire there cheap is my understanding, not to mention the beauty. I'm pretty patriotic but if the country doesn't turn around, hubby and I may retire to another country ourselves. Don't feel bad man.
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Old 05-04-2011, 12:59 PM   #98
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I hear better things about Costa Rica, namely medical expertise.
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Old 05-04-2011, 01:06 PM   #99
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I hear better things about Costa Rica, namely medical expertise.
Yeah but Costa Rica has been "discovered."

It was once a place to escape to, now it's where everybody goes.
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Yeah but Costa Rica has been "discovered."

It was once a place to escape to, now it's where everybody goes.
There are still some other small central american places that I would go to first. I would like to live in Europe too. Just to explore, not for the freedoms and other bullshit.
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