I learned about a new law tonight...

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

I see it plastered on the back of semi trailers all the time:

<<<PASSING SIDE ---- SUICIDE>>>

I remember seeing various ones. Some of my favs:

<<<PASS ---- ASS>>>

<<<GO ---- NO>>>

<<<OK ---- NO WAY>>>

<<<POSITIVE ---- NEGATIVE>>> (on back of Interstate Battery truck)

[Fleck750]

I'm surprised that most of you haven't encountered a cager that has tried to run you over.

I had one the other night jerk his pick up in front of me on a 4 lane road, came close to hitting me. I was doing the speed limit, in the left lane, minding my own business.

There are two kind of cagers:

1. the ones that you are invisible to

2. the ones that think you have a target painted on you.

[anthonyk]

Originally Posted by the chi

Seriously dude? Are you for real? The dude shouldnt have been in the left lane in the first place, especially if there are 2 lanes for the same direction of traffic. Left lane is for passing only. If he was cruising along in the left lane he should have moved well before he almost ran Grex over. Why the hell should Grex or anyone else need to wait on some asshole in the left lane to decide what HE wants to do when they are traveling at a higher rate of speed and can easily and safely pass if the other guy isnt a douchebag? It's not like its not hard to see a vehicle coming up behind you is traveling at a higher rate of speed (unless you arent paying attention to the road in thefirst place). If he waited till Grex was passing him to decide he shouldnt be driving in the PASSING lane, he's in the wrong for not paying attention to fellow traffic.

Why should he have to wait? Because it's a good idea.

I get GRex's opinion that this dude moved over intentionally, but it also happens a lot unintentionally. I've come up on people in the left lane when I'm impatient, and moved over pretty quickly to the right lane to pass them. Their slow-as-molasses ass saw me and decided to move, but they don't start actually moving over until I'm right in their blind spot. Even unintentional, they're still totally in the wrong, but that doesn't really help me much when their door is coming at me. Waiting a bit before passing on the right does help.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by the chi

...Seriously dude? Are you for real? The dude shouldnt have been in the left lane in the first place, especially if there are 2 lanes for the same direction of traffic. Left lane is for passing only. If he was cruising along in the left lane he should have moved well before he almost ran Grex over. Why the hell should Grex or anyone else need to wait on some asshole in the left lane to decide what HE wants to do when they are traveling at a higher rate of speed and can easily and safely pass if the other guy isnt a douchebag? It's not like its not hard to see a vehicle coming up behind you is traveling at a higher rate of speed (unless you arent paying attention to the road in thefirst place). If he waited till Grex was passing him to decide he shouldnt be driving in the PASSING lane, he's in the wrong for not paying attention to fellow traffic.

Yes...seriously splaya.

He should have waited for the guy to move over and not pass in the right lane (if you want to call a spade a spade). If the car didn't want to move over, then sure pass on the right.

And the Left Lane Except to Pass isn't a law in alot of states unless otherwise posted. It's kind of more of a courtesy....like moving over to the left for vehicles on the shoulder.

[Rangerscott]

When he said that you shouldnt pass in the right lanes, you should have responded with, "Well then get the fuck out of the left lane DUMBASS!"

[Avatard]

Alright. Listen. Germany, the Autobahn was mentioned.

Let's talk proper road etiquette.

First off, Slice, you're right. People's ego is a bitch, and getting them to move over is not easy...BUT...if you use proper etiquette, you'll find you do a lot better in this respect.

When coming up on slower traffic, PUT ON YOUR LEFT SIGNAL. Don't high beam people, it makes them more likely to take offense.

It's actually ILLEGAL to high beam anyone on the Autobahn. The correct action is to use the left turn signal (although, those with supercars often give a light tap on the highs anyway, as their closing speed is FUCKING SILLY).

If you have your signal on as you come up from behind, you give them a chance to move over, and you signal your intent to pass on the left (AS YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO).

If after arriving behind the vehicle, you find that they haven't moved over, you change your indicator to a RIGHT SIGNAL, and pass on the right (which is wrong, but is the closest you'll ever come in real life to two wrongs making a right).

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Alright. Listen. Germany, the Autobahn was mentioned.

Let's talk proper road etiquette.

First off, Slice, you're right. People's ego is a bitch, and getting them to move over is not easy...BUT...if you use proper etiquette, you'll find you do a lot better in this respect.

When coming up on slower traffic, PUT ON YOUR LEFT SIGNAL. Don't high beam people, it makes them more likely to take offense.

It's actually ILLEGAL to high beam anyone on the Autobahn. The correct action is to use the left turn signal (although, those with supercars often give a light tap on the highs anyway, as their closing speed is FUCKING SILLY).

If you have your signal on as you come up from behind, you give them a chance to move over, and you signal your intent to pass on the left (AS YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO).

If after arriving behind the vehicle, you find that they haven't moved over, you change your indicator to a RIGHT SIGNAL, and pass on the right (which is wrong, but is the closest you'll ever come in real life to two wrongs making a right).

I've tried this. Unfortunately people, in North America, either don't have a bloody clue what the left flasher in the left lane means, or they just don't give a damn. I have more luck with them mistaking me for a police vehicle if I throw on the hazard lights, since I'm in a hi-viz Aerostich jacket.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

I've tried this. Unfortunately people, in North America, either don't have a bloody clue what the left flasher in the left lane means, or they just don't give a damn. I have more luck with them mistaking me for a police vehicle if I throw on the hazard lights, since I'm in a hi-viz Aerostich jacket.

Exactly why I never finished the rattlecan stripes on the buick. Thing looked like an old cruiser and no one wanted to take the chance.

[pauldun170]

Two hotheads traveling along screaming WTF at each over what they think they are entitled too.
You are supposed to keep right!!
You are supposed to look before changing lanes!!
You shouldn't be passing on right ( not to be confused with simple lane change to different flow of traffic)
You also can't exceed the speed limit.
You can't go screaming at other drivers.

Don't pay attentiont to anything in this post....I was just typing to keep busy while I was pooping.
See that big list? They are all independent items and can't be combined for extra prizes.

His hogging a lane doesn't entitle you to exceed the speed limit. His illegal lane change doesn't entitle you to engage other drivers using aggressive gestures or obscene language. When you changed lanes to pass you should have left it at the 3 beeps and gone about your day.

Having said all that, how quickly did you accelerate to pass on the right? That and I probably would have done the same thing you did.

[G-Rex]

I'll indulge your blatant criticism of my riding style Paul....

1. My use of the WTF hand gesture is to get a driver's attention that they did something inappropriate, since most of them would otherwise have NO idea. I do not feel bad about this gesture, and I use it frequently, because as you well know, there are alot of stupid people out there that don't pay attention to or care about motorcycles.

2. He wasn't hogging the lane. He was moving over the line to block me. Only ever seen that before in California. Retarded move.

3. I was not speeding, and in fact, never exceeded the speed limit. I was going the speed limit and simply moved over, maintaining my rate of speed as I overpassed him.He was cruising along at 5 under, so your assertion that I overtook him at *oh my god we're going to die* speeds is incorrect.

4. I did not scream like a crazy person. If I had done that, I would have had the kickstand down and been off the bike, and well, when you're on two wheels, that's stupid. My survival instinct still works.

Originally Posted by pauldun170

Two hotheads traveling along screaming WTF at each over what they think they are entitled too.
You are supposed to keep right!!
You are supposed to look before changing lanes!!
You shouldn't be passing on right ( not to be confused with simple lane change to different flow of traffic)
You also can't exceed the speed limit.
You can't go screaming at other drivers.

See that big list? They are all independent items and can't be combined for extra prizes.

His hogging a lane doesn't entitle you to exceed the speed limit. His illegal lane change doesn't entitle you to engage other drivers using aggressive gestures or obscene language. When you changed lanes to pass you should have left it at the 3 beeps and gone about your day.

Having said all that, how quickly did you accelerate to pass on the right? That and I probably would have done the same thing you did.