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Old 09-18-2009, 07:28 PM   #41
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And I DON'T LIKE the SV or GSXR. Don't like the feel or the way they ride or the image. I would consider an R6 or ZX6R if I found one with this level of aftermarket stuff for the same price.
Yeah for a track bike, the R6 is the way to go unless you can find a brand new gen 6r for dirt cheap or a decent 636. I would skip the years between the 636 and the newest gen.
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Old 09-18-2009, 07:33 PM   #42
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the gsxr track bike image is way different than its corona inspired street image
Oh, I know it, but there's a lot to the bike itself that isn't right for me.

The '02 636 doesn't have any of the aftermarket parts I want, and it's carbed. Not low enough price for me to get the parts either.

The F4i has potential.

The 96 honda is too old.

The 98 honda is again, too old. And no goodies.

'03 Zook is a good deal- for somebody else.

'03/'06 600RR wouldn't be bad, but it's a frankenstein. And no suspension work.

I know I'm being picky here. This isn't something I need NOW. I know most people know almost nothing about the 650R- but I have pretty extensive knowledge Everyone says the SV is a great way to start on the track, the Ninja is just as competent. And if I eventually decide to try racing it, the 650 level racing shouldn't be as ridiculously crowded.
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Old 09-18-2009, 07:40 PM   #43
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Oh, I know it, but there's a lot to the bike itself that isn't right for me.

The '02 636 doesn't have any of the aftermarket parts I want, and it's carbed. Not low enough price for me to get the parts either.

The F4i has potential.

The 96 honda is too old.

The 98 honda is again, too old. And no goodies.

'03 Zook is a good deal- for somebody else.

'03/'06 600RR wouldn't be bad, but it's a frankenstein. And no suspension work.

I know I'm being picky here. This isn't something I need NOW. I know most people know almost nothing about the 650R- but I have pretty extensive knowledge Everyone says the SV is a great way to start on the track, the Ninja is just as competent. And if I eventually decide to try racing it, the 650 level racing shouldn't be as ridiculously crowded.
I say "do you" and get what makes YOU happy
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Old 09-18-2009, 10:10 PM   #44
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Oh, I know it, but there's a lot to the bike itself that isn't right for me.

The '02 636 doesn't have any of the aftermarket parts I want, and it's carbed. Not low enough price for me to get the parts either.

The F4i has potential.

The 96 honda is too old.

The 98 honda is again, too old. And no goodies.

'03 Zook is a good deal- for somebody else.

'03/'06 600RR wouldn't be bad, but it's a frankenstein. And no suspension work.

I know I'm being picky here. This isn't something I need NOW. I know most people know almost nothing about the 650R- but I have pretty extensive knowledge Everyone says the SV is a great way to start on the track, the Ninja is just as competent. And if I eventually decide to try racing it, the 650 level racing shouldn't be as ridiculously crowded.
Just keep an eye out for something like the track 600rr that arrah arrah was selling a while back. Personally I wouldnt be able to justify having two of the same bike for different purposes. Id either have the same bike with extra bodywork and a few spare parts or something thats good on the street and something good on the track.
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:50 AM   #45
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Just keep an eye out for something like the track 600rr that arrah arrah was selling a while back. Personally I wouldnt be able to justify having two of the same bike for different purposes. Id either have the same bike with extra bodywork and a few spare parts or something thats good on the street and something good on the track.
After being at the track multiple times you might change your mind about this. A few years ago I rode to Mid-OH for the AMA races. Sunday night when I got home I had to tear the bike down (just basics, no plastic change) for a track day the next 4 days. Then put it back to street legal the next day for a group ride. Talk about a bitch.

I would LOVE to have another bike identical to the one I have now solely for the track.
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Oh, I know it, but there's a lot to the bike itself that isn't right for me.


I know I'm being picky here. This isn't something I need NOW. I know most people know almost nothing about the 650R- but I have pretty extensive knowledge Everyone says the SV is a great way to start on the track, the Ninja is just as competent. And if I eventually decide to try racing it, the 650 level racing shouldn't be as ridiculously crowded.
Yeh it is totally your choice, however for my money I would go with a more common bike.
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:28 PM   #47
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After being at the track multiple times you might change your mind about this. A few years ago I rode to Mid-OH for the AMA races. Sunday night when I got home I had to tear the bike down (just basics, no plastic change) for a track day the next 4 days. Then put it back to street legal the next day for a group ride. Talk about a bitch.

I would LOVE to have another bike identical to the one I have now solely for the track.
But for me if I had the money to have 2 bikes, Id prefer something thats going to be a little more specific to the street and something specific to the track.
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Old 09-19-2009, 03:04 PM   #49
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Yeah for a track bike, the R6 is the way to go unless you can find a brand new gen 6r for dirt cheap or a decent 636. I would skip the years between the 636 and the newest gen.
Trip, give it a rest.

I know riders with all sorts of bikes... including gsxr's, r6's etc... and they thought the were the cat's ass... best thing ever... then they rode something different & were like "holy cow, you mean there's something else that's fun?"

Just cuz you think the R6 is the best thing out there doesn't mean it is.

I've ridden ALL SORTS of bikes around different race tracks, from 500's to 600's to 1000's... v-twins, I twins, I fours, thumpers etc. CR500 Supermoto to MV Agusta. There's no ONE BIKE that's the best for everyone out there.




Although I've never ridden one around the track myself, I know first han that the 650r can be turned into a very capable track/race bike. I race against them regularly in the LW classes at Loudon & am friends with people that race them... It's a little down on power compared to the SV, but not by much. They still handle VERY well and can be incredibly quick in the right hands.

Not only that, but they make great LEARNING TOOLS... more-so than a bike that you can twist the throttle on to make up for your mistakes. They wiggle around & flex a little to let you know you're not being smooth without biting you in the ass.

It's more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow.
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