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Old 09-26-2012, 12:17 AM   #20
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I've been over my posts backwards and forwards and I still don't see this change.

The best I can come up with is this quote:

But that was a response to this question by you:
I misunderstood your point in the post I was responding to. I thought you were adopting the logic that is was a lie because Obama never used the word "promise" rather than just responding to my post.

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And none of those facts is a lie. The lie is in the implication that Ryan made, that President Obama was to blame because he "promised" to keep the plant open. Dismiss is as "mind reading" if you want, but that implication is present, and intentional. The promise and the "blame" go hand-in-hand, because if the president had promised to keep the plant open, he would have been taking responsibility for whether or not the plant remained open.
We see this differently. I don't see Ryan placing the blame on Obama for the plant closing, implied or otherwise. In my view the much stronger argument is that their was an implied promise by Obama to keep the plant open, but obviously opinions differ about that as well.. As (I believe) I said before Obama can be responsible for making "promises" he couldn't keep while still being absolved from fault for the factory closing.
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