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Old 09-08-2010, 12:38 PM   #1
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Had something weird happen to me today. I went for a ride and bike was running just perfect. I get home and stop to check my mail. I take the key out to check the mail and then when I put it back in and turn it on I get the red light low oil indicator (which it always does on start), green neutral and head light. I hit the start and the bike goes completely dead.

I ended up pushing bike to the my 3rd floor parking garage and the lights would comeon every now and then. But when I hit start it'd die again. I didn't get a chance to roll start it when the lights came back on.

Anyone have any clue what is going on?
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Old 09-08-2010, 12:46 PM   #2
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Ignition key short would guess.
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Old 09-08-2010, 12:47 PM   #3
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shes about 15, thats when they really start disobeying, talking back, ignoring you, etc.


lol-sounds electrical
battery
fuses
kickstand switch
clutch switch
random short somewhere(ignition like mentioned, or the start button or run switch, etc)


not familiar with your bike or possible mods youve done(lighting?), but thats what id check first, in the order of easiest to hardest to get to/check.
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Old 09-08-2010, 02:30 PM   #4
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Well I prayed to the Honda gods that it wouldn't come down to them butt raping me (aka order Honda OEM) and sacrificed a virgin (was going to use Digifox but apparently he isn't anymore). I took the oldest one I could find (at 10) and fed it to the Kraken.

In doing so the bike started up no problem. I did everything I could to replicate the problem but it kept fucking working. Glad it's working but upset that I may not be able to identify what went wrong. Well I'm sure I'll have my chance in the middle of fucking nowhere.

I just thought of this which is probably a bad thing to remember later but I think low oil will cut a motor off (I know it will on Honda small engines). However would it by chance shut down all electronics? I'm just taking wild guesses now

I have two electronic mods. One is the heat grips that I have set up with the fuse box but the fuses where fine. The other is a green neon that I set up for the tag (a lot of good that did since I got a tag obstruction in daytime from Ranger Rick) but that hasn't affected anything before.

Appreciate the info. Now going to find someone who knows how to use an ohmmeter and make them start touching shit.
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Old 09-08-2010, 04:16 PM   #5
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First thing I'd do is load test the battery; a failing battery can drive you batshit crazy...sometimes they'll just slowly fade away and sometimes they'll do intermittent shut downs due to temp, ect. Next on my hit parade would be charging system...if the battery's not getting charged it'll act dead after a short shutdown, but then slowly gain a bit of charge after it's been sitting and cooling off....that's where I would look first.
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Old 09-08-2010, 06:27 PM   #6
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Battery sounds like the biggest culprit, take the body off and start looking at wires around the ignition too. Is the key loose in it? Are the contacts in good condition?
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OTB you might just be right. I noticed the other night while driving home in the country (no city lights) my lights kind of flickered some. I kind of blew it off but I recognized it from either a bad battery or bad Rectifier/Regulator. I replaced a bad R/R a year ago with a used GSXR750/600 RR that a lot of other F3 owners have done.

How do you do a "load test"? Is that something Batteries Plus can take care of or Autozone?
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:54 PM   #8
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OTB you might just be right. I noticed the other night while driving home in the country (no city lights) my lights kind of flickered some. I kind of blew it off but I recognized it from either a bad battery or bad Rectifier/Regulator. I replaced a bad R/R a year ago with a used GSXR750/600 RR that a lot of other F3 owners have done.

How do you do a "load test"? Is that something Batteries Plus can take care of or Autozone?
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How do you do a "load test"? Is that something Batteries Plus can take care of or Autozone?
Yes, Batteries Plus and Autozone can do a load test. Alternatively, you could pull your panties up, and act like a man. Sorry Smittie, you know I love you.

Put your meter on the battery terms. Check the reading. Crank the bike over, and watch the meter. If it drops more than 3 volts, your shit's fucked up.

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First thing I'd do is load test the battery; a failing battery can drive you batshit crazy...sometimes they'll just slowly fade away and sometimes they'll do intermittent shut downs due to temp, ect. Next on my hit parade would be charging system...if the battery's not getting charged it'll act dead after a short shutdown, but then slowly gain a bit of charge after it's been sitting and cooling off....that's where I would look first.
This...

Check the charging system. Chances are that it is either your regulator or alternator...from what I read in the OP it sounds like the alternator. Usually if its the regulator the battery will be stone dead and nothing will come on. What you said it sounds like it might be the alternator. Good luck.
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