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101lifts2 · 02-13-2010, 03:33 PM

^^^Liberals want ur guns and Conservatives want ur drugs. If you took away the drugs and gave people guns, you have Class Act citizens without crime. lol

Avatard · 02-13-2010, 04:20 PM

Wrong. If you deregulated both, the problems would cease.

Prohibition creates both criminals, and victims.

101lifts2 · 02-13-2010, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Avatard

Wrong. If you deregulated both, the problems would cease.

Prohibition creates both criminals, and victims.

That is because people are fucking weak.

Homeslice · 02-13-2010, 09:26 PM

No, it's because there will always be people willing to pay lots of money for illegal things.

Seeking something illegal isn't automatically "weakness." Some laws don't deserve to be followed, so disobeying them isn't weak. For example, speeding isn't weak.

Drug use is only a weakness if the person allows themselves to become addicted and/or harm their health.

Now, the fact that imported drugs are responsible for violence & murder makes buying them a pretty bad thing to do, but I'd say that's a lack of personal integrity rather than weakness.

goof2 · 02-13-2010, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Avatard

Wrong. If you deregulated both, the problems would cease.

Prohibition creates both criminals, and victims.

So does addiction which can't be regulated.

Apoc · 02-14-2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by goof2

So does addiction which can't be regulated.

Oh ya? Whens the last time you saw an alcoholic shoot someone for a bottle?

Its not addiction that causes our problems, its our laws.

Check out Holland...

goof2 · 02-14-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Apoc

Oh ya? Whens the last time you saw an alcoholic shoot someone for a bottle?

Its not addiction that causes our problems, its our laws.

Check out Holland...

It usually isn't "for a bottle", it is over something innocuous like a turkey leg or in the most recent well known case Nancy Kerrigan's brother choked their father to death over using the phone. What law caused that?

We can also add substance abuse as one of the causes.

Trip · 02-14-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Apoc

Oh ya? Whens the last time you saw an alcoholic shoot someone for a bottle?

Its not addiction that causes our problems, its our laws.

Check out Holland...

Go to any large inner city, someone robbing a liquor store for both money and liquor and holding up the clerk isn't unheard of.

Apoc · 02-14-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by goof2

It usually isn't "for a bottle", it is over something innocuous like a turkey leg or in the most recent well known case Nancy Kerrigan's brother choked their father to death over using the phone. What law caused that?

We can also add substance abuse as one of the causes.

People who kill over using the phone, obviously have more problems than the legality of drugs.

And trip, compare the amount of alcohol related murders, and drug related murders. Im guessing drug related is up way, way above alcohol. (im not talkling dui's either, i mean directly committing crimes for a substance)

Dave · 02-14-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Apoc

Oh ya? Whens the last time you saw an alcoholic shoot someone for a bottle?

Its not addiction that causes our problems, its our laws.

Check out Holland...

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02-13-2010, 03:33 PM	#11
101lifts2 WSB Champion Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Anaheim, CA Moto: 2009 Kawi ZX6R Posts: 5,570	^^^Liberals want ur guns and Conservatives want ur drugs. If you took away the drugs and gave people guns, you have Class Act citizens without crime. lol __________________ Train Hard Ron Paul - 2012 Mark of Excellence GM

02-13-2010, 04:20 PM	#12
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	Wrong. If you deregulated both, the problems would cease. Prohibition creates both criminals, and victims. __________________ Insert free thought here.

02-13-2010, 09:26 PM	#14
Homeslice Elitist Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Moto: Gix 750 Posts: 11,351	No, it's because there will always be people willing to pay lots of money for illegal things. Seeking something illegal isn't automatically "weakness." Some laws don't deserve to be followed, so disobeying them isn't weak. For example, speeding isn't weak. Drug use is only a weakness if the person allows themselves to become addicted and/or harm their health. Now, the fact that imported drugs are responsible for violence & murder makes buying them a pretty bad thing to do, but I'd say that's a lack of personal integrity rather than weakness. Last edited by Homeslice; 02-13-2010 at 09:34 PM..