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pauldun170 · 09-16-2009, 11:20 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CU-k..._embedded#t=96

Adeptus_Minor · 09-16-2009, 11:50 AM

Rather shocking.
I had erroneously assumed that the older 'more metal' cars were stronger.

101lifts2 · 09-16-2009, 04:13 PM

Neat.

I would say a 2009 Malibu wouldn't fair too well against a mid to late 1970s GM vehicle say a 1976 Grand Prix. Those were reinforced tanks. It's amazing how the 09 Malibu pushed its way into the BelAir driver compartment rather easily.

Now run the BelAir into a 2009 Hyundai. The Hyundai may not fair so well.

unknownroad · 09-16-2009, 06:12 PM

That poor, poor car!

Keep in mind that despite being 7" wider and more than 17" shorter, the Malibu only weighs 200lb less than the Bel Air. So even aside from design considerations, it's substantially denser than the '59.

Sean · 09-16-2009, 06:57 PM

But but but but...GM is an evil corporation that doesn't care about crash standards or their customers, only their bottom line and corporate jets!!!!11!!one!

Homeslice · 09-16-2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by unknownroad

That poor, poor car!

Keep in mind that despite being 7" wider and more than 17" shorter, the Malibu only weighs 200lb less than the Bel Air. So even aside from design considerations, it's substantially denser than the '59.

And has side-impact beams, and probably stouter pillars, firewalls and shock towers. 50 years ago they didn't use CAD to design the sheetmetal for optimal rigidity. Pretty common sense.

unknownroad · 09-17-2009, 01:14 PM

Like I said, even aside from design. If you're referring to exterior sheetmetal, it's absolutely not designed for rigidity in most modern cars. All the strength is in the unibody. The sheetmetal is essentially skin.

Of course, on an old body-on-frame sedan, there's almost no structural hard parts more than a foot or so off the ground. It's pretty much all skin. As 101 mentioned, against a heavy unibody car like a '73 Imperial, they'd be pulling pieces of Malibu out of the walls.

Adeptus_Minor · 09-17-2009, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by unknownroad

Of course, on an old body-on-frame sedan, there's almost no structural hard parts more than a foot or so off the ground. It's pretty much all skin.

Ah, I didn't even think about the construction. That makes sense.

101lifts2 · 09-18-2009, 12:05 AM

Leading the World in Safety....GM

pauldun170 · 09-25-2009, 10:42 AM

They have an interior shot in this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xwYBBpHg1I

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101lifts2 WSB Champion Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Anaheim, CA Moto: 2009 Kawi ZX6R Posts: 5,570	Neat. I would say a 2009 Malibu wouldn't fair too well against a mid to late 1970s GM vehicle say a 1976 Grand Prix. Those were reinforced tanks. It's amazing how the 09 Malibu pushed its way into the BelAir driver compartment rather easily. Now run the BelAir into a 2009 Hyundai. The Hyundai may not fair so well. __________________ Train Hard Ron Paul - 2012 Mark of Excellence GM Last edited by 101lifts2; 09-18-2009 at 12:06 AM..

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unknownroad Guys... where are we? Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Carolina Moto: SV650 Interstate, CX500 rat-bobber, whatever else runs. Posts: 784	Like I said, even aside from design. If you're referring to exterior sheetmetal, it's absolutely not designed for rigidity in most modern cars. All the strength is in the unibody. The sheetmetal is essentially skin. Of course, on an old body-on-frame sedan, there's almost no structural hard parts more than a foot or so off the ground. It's pretty much all skin. As 101 mentioned, against a heavy unibody car like a '73 Imperial, they'd be pulling pieces of Malibu out of the walls. __________________ Considering Verizon Business service? Perhaps you'd like to consider a nice drain cleaner enema instead?

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