Firefighters let home burn

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by goof2

I thought that was probably it but I have no idea what unlocking his house has to do with anything. I must have missed a thread (IMPOSSIBLE!!!!).

Wow, you suck.

[Particle Man]

http://www.twowheelfix.com/showthread.php?t=6030

http://www.twowheelfix.com/showthread.php?t=6102

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

Exactly. Sorry, but you cannot give everyone a free ride... Pay after the fact? The world doesn't work that way... ....

Uh....yeah it does. You use electric then you pay at the end of the month. Same with natural gas.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Mikey

Kaneman, you still don't get it. This is not a case of a tyrannical government oppressing its citizens.

This man had a choice. Either have the means and a plan to handle any fire-related contingencies on his property, or pay someone else a small annual fee to have those capabilities for him. He chose to handle it himself rather than pay the fee. When the shit hit the fan, he found it was beyond his capabilities and tried to get retroactive coverage.

If the firefighters had done what you seem to think was the "right thing to do", they would be undermining their entire system. The system may need revising, and after this event it no doubt will get that, but in the meantime, it has to be upheld or everybody will be SOL.

Please, save me the bleeding heart bullshit. If you want less goverment interference in your life (as you clearly seem to want), then you have to be prepared to provide for yourself as well. This man chose to have less government involvement by refusing to retain the services of a fire department. That means he's on his own here. You can't have it both ways.

I think the whole point of this debate is that those firefighters allowed 4 animals to burn to death. Its the same thing as seeing an accident of a biker who didn't wear gear and then say fuck it. He deserves what he gets, then drive off.

Everything in this world doesn't have to have a fucking dollar sign attached to it.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Mikey

I disagree. I think the negligence here falls solely on the homeowner. It's a sad situation, but one for which he bears sole responsibility.

So...you miss one payment on your house and the bank says...nope foreclosing. You cannot back pay your missed payment.

See how that works when the tables are turned.

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

Uh....yeah it does. You use electric then you pay at the end of the month. Same with natural gas.

There's a difference. With those things, there's a variable quantity that needs to be counted before a charge can be applied. Different scenario here.

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

So...you miss one payment on your house and the bank says...nope foreclosing. You cannot back pay your missed payment.

See how that works.

No. You miss a premium payment on your insurance and you get dropped. Pay said premium and the coverage picks back up. If something happens while the coverage is dropped, you're fucked.

I do agree that it sucks about the animals.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Particle Man

There's a difference. With those things, there's a variable quantity that needs to be counted before a charge can be applied. Different scenario here.



No. You miss a premium payment on your insurance and you get dropped. Pay said premium and the coverage picks back up. If something happens while the coverage is dropped, you're fucked.

The money was a drop in the bucket in comparison to the cost of the house and the cost of the enviromental impact. Not to metion the death of the animals.

Also, you cannot compare insurance to this, because the guy was ready to pay for all the back pay. With insurance, you are esentially asking to pay 500 bucks in order to claim 10 grand. It's not the same thing.

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

I think the whole point of this debate is that those firefighters allowed 4 animals to burn to death. Its the same thing as seeing an accident of a biker who didn't wear gear and then say fuck it. He deserves what he gets, then drive off.

Everything in this world doesn't have to have a fucking dollar sign attached to it.

Its not just the animals. If they'd let some old man burn alive in there people would still be saying the same thing. Shoulda paid your bill sucka...

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Wow, you suck.

Probably.

Originally Posted by Particle Man

http://www.twowheelfix.com/showthread.php?t=6030

http://www.twowheelfix.com/showthread.php?t=6102

You didn't have to dig it up, but I appreciate it.

A year and a half ago? Now I don't feel so out of the loop.

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

The money was a drop in the bucket in comparison to the cost of the house and the cost of the enviromental impact. Not to metion the death of the animals.

Also, you cannot compare insurance to this, because the guy was ready to pay for all the back pay. With insurance, you are esentially asking to pay 500 bucks in order to claim 10 grand. It's not the same thing.

It's the exact same thing. You pay $75 per year to get a service that could very well cost $1500. You can't call your insurance company after your policy lapsed and make a claim saying you're willing to pay your premium.

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Its not just the animals. If they'd let some old man burn alive in there people would still be saying the same thing. Shoulda paid your bill sucka...

As much as you want them to be on the same level as humans, our pets are not. You can buy a pet, you can choose to euthanize a pet... shelters put down thousands of animals a week. When people are treated like that, its a global concern and has historical significance.

I wish they would have saved the pets, I really do... But to put blame on anyone else other than this guy and to compare this to raping his family and whatnot is completely irrational and quite frankly, very short-sighted