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The public in general may be the least prepared, but they are the ones in the best position to do something about it. In the early 90s in England you didn't leave your bags unattended and if you saw an unattended bag you reported it. That was because unattended bags at that point had a nasty habit of blowing up. The first line of defense against this was the public. Fortunately (due to the lack of incidents) Americans have not had to develop this vigilance. If the situation changes I hope we are capable of adapting. |
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I just ate an orange. Does that count?
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![]() ALL of DHS's duties were already being performed by other agencies. If those agencies had had their shit together, or at least been given the opportunity to get their shit together, another agency wouldn't have been necessary. |
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And a true car enthusiast would want to know what their oil pressure is at any given time. ![]() Pretty much every aftermarket gauge allows you to see the pressure move up and down in response to your revs. But most OEM gauges don't. They're either too slow to react, or just sit in one spot all the time. Ghey. |
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I think Homeslice is right. They have to look like they're doing something, so they made a chart. I'm not discounting the others measures they're taking, but a chart? Charts scare me. In my experience, when people have no fucking clue what to do next, they start making charts. I don't disagree that the average American has a low degree of situational awareness. This isn't Israel, or the UK in the 70's. Shit, we can even concentrate on driving down the freeway without fucking it up. All the charts in the world aren't going to make up for that. JC
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JC I agree that the chart system may be flawed but what would you suggest instead? You realize that we are the reason for it don't you? We want to be "unaware", we don't want the dirty details, and we sure as hell don't want to have to actually DO anything. Listen to the complaints here about water bottles, etc. I'm not saying that they are perfect or anything but unless you have a better plan, it's the best that we have to work with right now. Again, I understand that this is a flawed argument but since there haven't been any more attacks, they must be doing something right. |
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I have a tiger repelling rock to sell you tigger..
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crazy! it's not like they arrested 2 people this week trying to blow chit up or anything......sec. in the US airports still suck...
sec. was tighter in eur. in the mid 90's when i was over there........ dammed if you do and dammed if ya don't......
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If you think a chart is the "best thing we have to work with right now", you are woefully uninformed. JC
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Part of the reason for the threat level is for the public. It is designed to drive situational awareness among the public. The public has not responded as hoped. It is also designed to cover the government's collective ass. If an attack happens they can point to the threat level as evidence that they tried to warn the public. On both these fronts I don't think it has been particularly effective. It is also designed to be the civilian agency equivalent of the DEFCON system for the military. Government agencies are supposed to set their preparation, readiness, and security procedures based upon the threat level. The military has different procedures based upon different defense readiness conditions. Civilian governmental agencies are supposed to do the same based upon the different threat levels. I don't know how successful that has been. Quote:
The only reason this isn't Israel or the UK with the IRA is terrorists have so far chosen not to go that route. It has nothing to do with either the government or the public. The general public thinks they are safe, which has created much of the apathy about security. If the public no longer feels safe I suspect the apathy will disappear. |
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