Go Back   Two Wheel Fix > General > Off Topic

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-04-2015, 07:42 AM   #1
Papa_Complex
Nomadic Tribesman
 
Papa_Complex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Brampton, Canada
Moto: '09 ER-6n
Posts: 11,150
Default Target is dead

Well in Canada, at least. Target Canada filed for bankruptcy protection, last month, and will be liquidating its assets. They'll be leaving the country and owing suppliers.

The simple fact is they screwed up. Canadians were expecting a shopping experience like the one they get in US Target stores. What we got, instead, was stores with a red and white logo and empty shelves. I went into a half dozen different Canadian Target stores and there was no selection, lots of empty space on the shelves, and the prices weren't that great.

By way of comparison when Wal-Mart entered the Canadian market, a little over 20 years ago, they went in whole hog. They opened large, fully stocked stores with good prices. They not only brought in the cheap crap, but also sourced product from Canadian companies. They're going strong today and are a part of the landscape.

Target has no one to blame but themselves.
__________________
"Everything's better with pirates." - Lodge, "Dorkness Rising"

http://www.morallyambiguous.net/

Last edited by Papa_Complex; 02-04-2015 at 07:47 AM..
Papa_Complex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2015, 01:49 PM   #2
Turbo Ghost
Movie Star
 
Turbo Ghost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Kingsport, TN.
Moto: KLR650
Posts: 682
Default

I wonder who they'll blame? We had a local restaurant open up in our downtown area. They were ridiculously high-priced and only open a few hours per day. They shut down and put a huge editorial in the paper blasting the city for not supporting them. I always wonder who's to blame when according to everybody, it's not their fault!?
Turbo Ghost is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2015, 07:13 PM   #3
Papa_Complex
Nomadic Tribesman
 
Papa_Complex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Brampton, Canada
Moto: '09 ER-6n
Posts: 11,150
Default

I can't see who else they can blame. Maybe "Blame Canada"? You promise the shopping experience of the American stores and then don't come close on price expectations, while also failing to stock stores, and it makes it look like you planned to fail.

Some people just have to find others to blame. Why would you support a business that was that was part time, like that restaurant?

We had a motorcycle accessories shop that had been around for 20 years, that closed two years ago. In a Facebook post the owner, a former national racer who I'd known for those 20 years and who had taught me during at least 5 of my 8 track school days, blamed the customers for shifting their purchases to the internet, to the detriment of brick and mortar local stores. I had to say something. I had tried to give him my business. His shop was virtually on my way home. He never had what I wanted in stock. When I ordered something it would take 2+ weeks to arrive and his staff wouldn't call to let me know that it was in. On one occasion his #1 front counter guy told me that a certain accessory was no longer made. I went online, when I got home, and found it in literally 30 seconds. It was at my door 5 days later.

Some people just don't realize that they are the reason for their own failure.
__________________
"Everything's better with pirates." - Lodge, "Dorkness Rising"

http://www.morallyambiguous.net/
Papa_Complex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2015, 12:20 PM   #4
marko138
DefenderOfTheBuelliverse
 
marko138's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Parts Unknown
Moto: Buell XB12R
Posts: 18,585
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Papa_Complex View Post
I can't see who else they can blame. Maybe "Blame Canada"? You promise the shopping experience of the American stores and then don't come close on price expectations, while also failing to stock stores, and it makes it look like you planned to fail.

Some people just have to find others to blame. Why would you support a business that was that was part time, like that restaurant?

We had a motorcycle accessories shop that had been around for 20 years, that closed two years ago. In a Facebook post the owner, a former national racer who I'd known for those 20 years and who had taught me during at least 5 of my 8 track school days, blamed the customers for shifting their purchases to the internet, to the detriment of brick and mortar local stores. I had to say something. I had tried to give him my business. His shop was virtually on my way home. He never had what I wanted in stock. When I ordered something it would take 2+ weeks to arrive and his staff wouldn't call to let me know that it was in. On one occasion his #1 front counter guy told me that a certain accessory was no longer made. I went online, when I got home, and found it in literally 30 seconds. It was at my door 5 days later.

Some people just don't realize that they are the reason for their own failure.
That's what makes it tough to support brick and mortar stores sometimes. I try to shop locally. I'll even pay a few more bucks to support the little guy. But when I hear "we can order it". Ya, well so can I. And have at my door step 2 days later...for free.
__________________


Quote:
Grandma said she doesn't want you here when she gets back because you've been ruining everybody's lives and eating all our steak.
marko138 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2015, 03:58 PM   #5
Papa_Complex
Nomadic Tribesman
 
Papa_Complex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Brampton, Canada
Moto: '09 ER-6n
Posts: 11,150
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by marko138 View Post
That's what makes it tough to support brick and mortar stores sometimes. I try to shop locally. I'll even pay a few more bucks to support the little guy. But when I hear "we can order it". Ya, well so can I. And have at my door step 2 days later...for free.
Exactly. I was willing to pay more in order to touch and test the product, rather than ordering it sight unseen. That requires stock though. I understand that carrying stock is a big expense but on one occasion I wanted a set of heavy weight KTM bar end weights, for alloy bars, that are a standard item (this shop was a KTM dealer). They had a box for a pair that only had one weight in it, so I had to wait 3 weeks for mine to come in.
__________________
"Everything's better with pirates." - Lodge, "Dorkness Rising"

http://www.morallyambiguous.net/
Papa_Complex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2015, 09:49 PM   #6
racedoll
AMA Supersport
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Moto: '04 Kawasaki ZX6RR
Posts: 3,392
Default

Wow. I like shopping at Target (in the US), sucks they weren't the same in Canada. Although they disappointed me this Christmas with the lack of selection in sizes. I had found the perfect pajamas for my niece. I bought her size 10 and we needed 12, they don't make them trying to find something comparable else where has been nearly impossible.
racedoll is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2015, 09:02 AM   #7
Papa_Complex
Nomadic Tribesman
 
Papa_Complex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Brampton, Canada
Moto: '09 ER-6n
Posts: 11,150
Default

Well to show that they understand our market, Wal-Mart is using the Target closure as an opportunity to expand their operations.
__________________
"Everything's better with pirates." - Lodge, "Dorkness Rising"

http://www.morallyambiguous.net/
Papa_Complex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2015, 03:06 PM   #8
Papa_Complex
Nomadic Tribesman
 
Papa_Complex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Brampton, Canada
Moto: '09 ER-6n
Posts: 11,150
Default

So NOW they find a business model that works in Canada?

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/02/13...rampton-target
__________________
"Everything's better with pirates." - Lodge, "Dorkness Rising"

http://www.morallyambiguous.net/
Papa_Complex is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:38 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.