Illegal Immigrants get cheaper in-state tuition

RACER X · 05-06-2010, 05:28 PM

HOUSTON -- In 2001, Texas lawmakers passed a law allowing illegal immigrants to qualify for much cheaper in-state tuition, and a woman who took advantage of the opportunity says it changed her life.

Illegal immigrants account for about 1 percent of all Texas college students. Texas A&M graduate Rosi Rodriguez says she was one of them.

'It's a success story because I went into college as an illegal immigrant," Rodriguez said. “Everyone is like, 'What’s your Social?' I'd be like, 'I don't have one.'"

Rodriguez graduated fourth in her high school class and gained automatic acceptance to Texas A&M -- and $50,000 in private scholarships.

She says without in-state tuition, she'd never have been able to get a degree.

'It was so special it makes me want to cry right now, again,” she said. "With my situation there were plenty of times that I was like, ‘I want to dropout, I can't take it. This is too much for me."

Rodriguez’s parents are in the U.S. legally, thanks to an amnesty program. She and her six siblings are split. Half were born here, half were not.

She said college was a distant dream for her family.

"They have like no background in college education, so I was like on my own for everything," she said.

Rodriguez said she understands the immigration debate better than most and knows exactly how important education is to people.

"Where would I be? I don't even want to imagine," she said.

In her final semester, Rodriguez got her green card -- a process as tough as school, she said. All along, she heard the talk from some Aggies who wondered why she was there at all.

"I'm glad I never listened to them. I'm glad I never paid attention to those harsh comments," she said.

She'd be happy to testify to the student senate now and said she has plenty to say.

"We are all Aggies here and being an illegal immigrant doesn't make me less of an Aggie," she said.

COLLEGE STATION, Texas -- Dozens of protestors gathered on the Texas A&M campus Wednesday while the student government erupted in a heated debate over a student bill opposing in-state tuition for illegal immigrants.

“I think it means we’re working on issues that really matter to people,” said Justin Pulliam, a student senator who proposed the bill.

He said it’s just a matter of fairness.

“It just isn’t fair that someone who’s in this country illegally gets in-state tuition, when legal US citizens living outside of the state have to pay thousands more,” he said.

In fall of 2009, records show Texas A&M had 317 students without Social Security numbers paying in-state tuition -- roughly $5,152 for undergraduates.

Meanwhile, the university’s 7,026 out-of-state students paid a higher rate, about $19,552.

Freshman Stephanie Monjaraz says it’s the only way impoverished, illegal immigrants can afford an education.

“I saw my parents trying to make me successful,” she said.

A legal immigrant from Mexico, Monjaraz struggled to learn English when she arrived in the fifth grade. She eventually became a U.S. citizen, but sympathizes with those who can’t.

“I feel bad because they don’t even get a chance,” she said.

The student government plans to do further research on the student attitudes before putting the bill up for vote. If it does pass, they’ll send a group to Austin to lobby state lawmakers to change the rules.

The existing law does require immigrants to meet certain criteria before getting in-state tuition, including having lived in Texas for at least three years.

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pauldun170 · 05-06-2010, 05:48 PM

Her immigration status is a federal issue but she IS a resident of Texas.
I don't have a problem with her qualifying for in-state tuition.

shmike · 05-06-2010, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170

Her immigration status is a federal issue but she IS a resident of Texas.
I don't have a problem with her qualifying for in-state tuition.

So, she illegally entered the country but she is legal in the state?

azoomm · 05-06-2010, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170

Her immigration status is a federal issue but she IS a resident of Texas.
I don't have a problem with her qualifying for in-state tuition.

I think the compounded problem of illegal immigration is that separate agencies have allowed immigration status to go unchecked [or have not cared] for too long.

Does she live here? Yes. If she isn't here legally, how can she be considered a legal resident? Is there a definition of "resident?"

goof2 · 05-06-2010, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170

Her immigration status is a federal issue but she IS a resident of Texas.
I don't have a problem with her qualifying for in-state tuition.

Has her family been subject to all the taxes and fees that subsidized her college education and paid for her primary education like legal residents are? I suspect not. That is part of my problem with it.

dubbs · 05-06-2010, 05:54 PM

My question is, when they asked for her social and she was like "I don't have one" Why didn't the person like call INS?

EpyonXero · 05-06-2010, 06:05 PM

Citizenship has nothing to do with residency. If she fulfilled the requirements for residency, I dont have a problem with it.

dubbs · 05-06-2010, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by EpyonXero

Citizenship has nothing to do with residency. If she fulfilled the requirements for residency, I dont have a problem with it.

I don't get that at all, if she's here illegally what does any of that matter?

She doesn't pay taxes, doesn't have a social, but if she gets hurt we all pay for it... Then on top of all that she gets cheaper tuition!

Something horribly wrong here..

azoomm · 05-06-2010, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dubbs

I don't get that at all, if she's here illegally what does any of that matter?

She doesn't pay taxes, doesn't have a social, but if she gets hurt we all pay for it... Then on top of all that she gets cheaper tuition!

Something horribly wrong here..

THAT is what I don't understand.

Smittie61984 · 05-06-2010, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubbs

I don't get that at all, if she's here illegally what does any of that matter?

She doesn't pay taxes, doesn't have a social, but if she gets hurt we all pay for it... Then on top of all that she gets cheaper tuition!

Something horribly wrong here..

My guess is that some state representatives increased their voting block with this. That is all this is all about. The politicians (all sides) see an untapped resource. Millions of illegal residents who can't vote (unless in Chicago) and will vote for whomever promises them the most shit (at the cost of others of course).

05-06-2010, 05:28 PM	#1
RACER X AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Richmond, Tx Moto: '10 Tuono Factory Posts: 4,569	Illegal Immigrants get cheaper in-state tuition HOUSTON -- In 2001, Texas lawmakers passed a law allowing illegal immigrants to qualify for much cheaper in-state tuition, and a woman who took advantage of the opportunity says it changed her life. Illegal immigrants account for about 1 percent of all Texas college students. Texas A&M graduate Rosi Rodriguez says she was one of them. 'It's a success story because I went into college as an illegal immigrant," Rodriguez said. “Everyone is like, 'What’s your Social?' I'd be like, 'I don't have one.'" Rodriguez graduated fourth in her high school class and gained automatic acceptance to Texas A&M -- and $50,000 in private scholarships. She says without in-state tuition, she'd never have been able to get a degree. 'It was so special it makes me want to cry right now, again,” she said. "With my situation there were plenty of times that I was like, ‘I want to dropout, I can't take it. This is too much for me." Rodriguez’s parents are in the U.S. legally, thanks to an amnesty program. She and her six siblings are split. Half were born here, half were not. She said college was a distant dream for her family. "They have like no background in college education, so I was like on my own for everything," she said. Rodriguez said she understands the immigration debate better than most and knows exactly how important education is to people. "Where would I be? I don't even want to imagine," she said. In her final semester, Rodriguez got her green card -- a process as tough as school, she said. All along, she heard the talk from some Aggies who wondered why she was there at all. "I'm glad I never listened to them. I'm glad I never paid attention to those harsh comments," she said. She'd be happy to testify to the student senate now and said she has plenty to say. "We are all Aggies here and being an illegal immigrant doesn't make me less of an Aggie," she said. COLLEGE STATION, Texas -- Dozens of protestors gathered on the Texas A&M campus Wednesday while the student government erupted in a heated debate over a student bill opposing in-state tuition for illegal immigrants. “I think it means we’re working on issues that really matter to people,” said Justin Pulliam, a student senator who proposed the bill. He said it’s just a matter of fairness. “It just isn’t fair that someone who’s in this country illegally gets in-state tuition, when legal US citizens living outside of the state have to pay thousands more,” he said. In fall of 2009, records show Texas A&M had 317 students without Social Security numbers paying in-state tuition -- roughly $5,152 for undergraduates. Meanwhile, the university’s 7,026 out-of-state students paid a higher rate, about $19,552. Freshman Stephanie Monjaraz says it’s the only way impoverished, illegal immigrants can afford an education. “I saw my parents trying to make me successful,” she said. A legal immigrant from Mexico, Monjaraz struggled to learn English when she arrived in the fifth grade. She eventually became a U.S. citizen, but sympathizes with those who can’t. “I feel bad because they don’t even get a chance,” she said. The student government plans to do further research on the student attitudes before putting the bill up for vote. If it does pass, they’ll send a group to Austin to lobby state lawmakers to change the rules. The existing law does require immigrants to meet certain criteria before getting in-state tuition, including having lived in Texas for at least three years. http://www.khou.com/news/In-State-Tu...-92914259.html __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ 2014 GROM! 181cc of FURY 2010 Aprilia Tuono Factory - SOLD 2009 SFV Gladius - SOLD 2008 Hayabusa - SOLD.

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EpyonXero AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Redneck Riviera, FL Moto: 2003 VFR800f6 Posts: 2,531	Citizenship has nothing to do with residency. If she fulfilled the requirements for residency, I dont have a problem with it. __________________