Apple wins lawsuit over Samsung

[Gas Man]

WOW!!! Just wow.

..Apple triumphs over Samsung, awarded over $1 billion damagesBy Gerry Shih | Reuters – 43 mins ago.........



....SAN JOSE, California (Reuters) - Apple Inc. scored a sweeping legal victory over Samsung on Friday as a U.S. jury found the Korean company had copied critical features of the hugely popular iPhone and iPad and awarded the U.S. company $1.051 billion in damages.

The verdict -- which came much sooner than expected -- could lead to an outright ban on sales of key Samsung products and will likely solidify Apple's dominance of the exploding mobile computing market.

A number of companies that sell smartphones based on Google's Android operating system may now face further legal challenges from Apple, a company that is already among the largest and most profitable in business history.

Shares in Apple, which just this week became the biggest company by market value in history, climbed almost 2 percent to a record high of $675 in after-hours trade.

Brian Love, a Santa Clara law school professor, described it as a crushing victory for Apple: "This is the best-case scenario Apple could have hoped for."

The jury deliberated for less than three days before delivering the verdict on seven Apple patent claims and five Samsung patent claims -- suggesting that the nine-person panel had little difficulty in concluding that Samsung had copied the iPhone and the iPad.

Billions of dollars in future sales hang in the balance.

Apple's charges that Samsung copied its designs and features are widely viewed as an attack on Google Inc and its Android software, which drives Samsung's devices and has become the most-used mobile software.

Apple and Samsung, two companies that sell more than half the world's smartphones and tablets, have locked legal horns in several countries this year.

Earlier on Friday, a South Korean court found that both companies shared blame, ordering Samsung to stop selling 10 products including its Galaxy S II phone and banning Apple from selling four different products, including its iPhone 4.

But the trial on Apple's home turf -- the world's largest and most influential technology market -- is considered the most important.

The fight began last year when Apple sued Samsung in multiple countries, accusing the South Korean company of slavishly copying the iPhone and iPad. Samsung countersued. Apple had sought more than $2.5 billion in damages from Samsung, which has disputed that figure.

The companies are rivals, but also have a $5 billion-plus supply relationship. Apple is Samsung's biggest customer for microprocessors and other parts central to Apple's devices.

A NEAR CLEAN SWEEP?

The U.S. jury spent most of August in a packed federal courtroom in San Jose -- just miles from Apple's headquarters in Cupertino -- listening to testimony, examining evidence and watching lawyers from both sides joust about seven Apple patents, five Samsung patents, and damage claims.

Jurors received 100 pages of legal instructions from U.S. District Judge Lucy Koh on August 21 prior to hearing the closing arguments from attorneys.

Lawyers from both tech giants used their 25 hours each of trial time to present internal emails, draw testimony from designers and experts, and put on product demonstrations and mockups to convince the jury.

At times, their questions drew testimony that offered glimpses behind the corporate facade, such as the margins on the iPhone and Samsung's sales figures in the United States.

From the beginning, Apple's tactic was to present what it thought was chronological evidence of Samsung copying its phone.

Juxtaposing pictures of phones from both companies and internal Samsung emails that specifically analyzed the features of the iPhone, Apple's attorneys accused Samsung of taking shortcuts after realizing it could not keep up.

Samsung's attorneys, on the other hand, maintained Apple had no sole right to geometric designs such as rectangles with rounded corners. They called Apple's damage claim "ridiculous" and urged the jury to consider that a verdict in favor of Apple could stifle competition and reduce choices for consumers.

The California trial has produced its share of drama and heated moments. Lawyers routinely bickered over legal matters in the jury's absence, filed rafts of paperwork to thwart each other's courtroom strategy, and sometimes even resorted to public relations tactics to make their views known.

(Additional reporting by Dan Levine, Poornima Gupta and Edwin Chan,; Editing by Bernard Orr, Jonathan Weber, Leslie Gevirtz, Gary Hill)

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[pauldun170]

This is bs

[Trip]

Which patents did Apple win? They won 6 out of 7, but what the fuck were they? Can't find that anywhere...

[Trip]

Looks like the iPad design patents are the ones that got thrown out. That's good to hear since square rounded corner tablets have been around a lot longer than the iPad. They weren't big smart phones, but regular windows tablets, thicker and heavier, but still the same basic shape.

The multi touch/pinch to zoom bullshit should of fell too, you can watch all kinds of youtube videos showing windows did it first. It's absolute bullshit the patent office gave them those patents.

We need to fix the patent system, it's fucking broke. This is not what the patent system was made for...

[udman]

[Trip]

This predates the iPhone. Sure it wasn't a commercial success, but it shows the bs of the patent system for allowing apple to hold the basic design of maximizing screen size in a minimal case.

[Sixxxxer]

Who fucking cares? It's all propaganda bullshit anyway.

Apple/Samsung, There probably in bed together.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Sixxxxer

Who fucking cares? It's all propaganda bullshit anyway.

Apple/Samsung, There probably in bed together.

They are, apple products are made with a fuck ton of Samsung products. It would be funny to see Samsung just stop supplying Apple. That will never happen cause Samsung doesn't want to miss out on all the cash they make off Apple.

If Apple pisses off enough tech companies they could really fuck themselves over since they make jackshit. They are just a design company that depends on other companies to actually manufacturer their products, including Samsung and Motorola.

[Sixxxxer]

Originally Posted by Trip

They are, apple products are made with a fuck ton of Samsung products. It would be funny to see Samsung just stop supplying Apple. That will never happen cause Samsung doesn't want to miss out on all the cash they make off Apple.

If Apple pisses off enough tech companies they could really fuck themselves over since they make jackshit. They are just a design company that depends on other companies to actually manufacturer their products, including Samsung and Motorola.

If i remember correctly, Samsung supplies ALOT of cell phone companies with the screens for the phones. Samsung also has a good hold on the TV market as well as most HD LCD Tv's use Samsung screens, Even if it says LG on the front.

From what a buddy of mine told me once with issues with phones being on backorder is bc samsung couldn't keep up with the demand and screens weren't ready in time thus causing delays in getting the new batches of phones out.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Sixxxxer

If i remember correctly, Samsung supplies ALOT of cell phone companies with the screens for the phones. Samsung also has a good hold on the TV market as well as most HD LCD Tv's use Samsung screens, Even if it says LG on the front.

From what a buddy of mine told me once with issues with phones being on backorder is bc samsung couldn't keep up with the demand and screens weren't ready in time thus causing delays in getting the new batches of phones out.

There are all sorts of chips and parts that samsung makes that apple takes advantage of...

The screens you are talking about were for Droids, those are the Super AMOLED screens. Apple doesn't use those.