Any network admins here?

[Homeslice]

I'm not one, but I have a question for you: In this modern era where I can go to Staples and buy a 16GB usb for only $20, why do you need to put a 200MB size limit on your company's email accts? I am calling BS on my employer's claim that it would cost too much to increase it.

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

I'm not one, but I have a question for you: In this modern era where I can go to Staples and buy a 16GB usb for only $20, why do you need to put a 200MB size limit on your company's email accts? I am calling BS on my employer's claim that it would cost too much to increase it.

Server hardware sho is spensive k'pared to consumer stuff
so is arrangin fer upgrades

[LeeNetworX]

Server hardware costs more. So does the bandwidth needed to backup/replicate your data. Also, many companies have strict archiving policies and don't want employees keeping e-mails that are x years old - limiting your storage size is another way to try and get you to keep only your recent communications.

[pauldun170]

Seriously....it is more expensive hardware and the work involved.

A 200mb limit on mailboxes is reasonable when combined with retention policies.
To hit that 200mb you either need a lot of old emails or a lot of attachments.

Attachments should be kept in the appropriate place (not email) and old email should be purged or stored appropriately for a bazillion reasons.

If it's so damn important TO THE COMPANY that you need to keep it, store it in a place accesible to anyone. Not in an exchange account.

(lee beat me to it)

[LeeNetworX]

Also, it's not just the cost of the hardware; there's also associated costs with keeping that hardware running. Electricity / load, rack space, A/C to keep the equipment running at an acceptable temp, etc. Every time you add another device or drive array you are adding to your recurring costs to maintain it.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

Seriously....it is more expensive hardware and the work involved.

A 200mb limit on mailboxes is reasonable when combined with retention policies.
To hit that 200mb you either need a lot of old emails or a lot of attachments.

Attachments should be kept in the appropriate place (not email) and old email should be purged or stored appropriately for a bazillion reasons.

If it's so damn important TO THE COMPANY that you need to keep it, store it in a place accesible to anyone. Not in an exchange account.

(lee beat me to it)

If you received as much email, and as many attachments, as I do, you wouldn't want to sit around downloading every attachment and then removing it from the original message just to save a little space.

I'm pretty sure I get about 200MB every 2 weeks. This leaves only one option -----> constantly dragging old messages to my "personal" folder which is off the network. Which gets old because then I'm forced to flip back and forth between online and offline stored messages in order to find what I need.

Regarding bandwidth issues? I'm no techie, but I don't understand how a 200MB mailbox puts any stress on bandwidth, when I could if I wanted to watch any video or even movie I wanted to, which I'm quite sure uses more bandwidth than a simple email account.

Regarding cost of servers? Please, at only 200MB per employee for a company my size, this would require only 2,000 gig's worth of space.

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

If you received as much email, and as many attachments, as I do, you wouldn't have time to download every attachment and then remove it from the message. I'm pretty sure I get about 200MB every 2 weeks. This leaves only one option -----> constantly dragging old messages to my "personal" folder which is off the network. Which gets old because then I'm forced to flip back and forth between online and offline stored messages.

Regarding bandwidth issues? I'm no techie, but I don't understand how a 200MB mailbox puts any stress on bandwidth, when I could if I wanted to watch any video or even movie I wanted to, which I'm quite sure uses more bandwidth than a simple email account.

Regarding cost of servers? Please, at only 200MB per employee for a company my size, this would require only 2,000 gig's worth of space.

What business value is being derived by allowing your lazy ass to drive a new expensive policy (how many employees at your company? Storage adds up quick) that will require a significant investment in time and resources?

What business value is being realized by allowing you to keep company data locked away in your exchange account?

Why are you receiving 200MB of email every two weeks? Is this from external clients or internal clients? In order for it to reach that level there'd have to be a lot of attachments because if it's just text emails then it does not make sense.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

What business value is being derived by allowing your lazy ass to drive a new expensive policy (how many employees at your company? Storage adds up quick) that will require a significant investment in time and resources?

What business value is being realized by allowing you to keep company data locked away in your exchange account?

Why are you receiving 200MB of email every two weeks? Is this from external clients or internal clients? In order for it to reach that level there'd have to be a lot of attachments because if it's just text emails then it does not make sense.

Um yeah, people send attachments constantly. Internal, external, clients, etc......It's not my choice. A lot of it is internal corporate BS announcements, and a lot of it is inter-client communication. Not sure what else to say. A single Powerpoint could be 5-6 MB.

And you say "storage costs add up quick"........For a company like this with 10,000 employees, multiply that by 200 mb and the result is only 2,000 gigs. I could go to Staples and buy that much capacity for only a few hundred bucks. Granted, a business is not going to use a common consumer HD for a server, but I still don't understand why it's a big deal. How many servers would possibly be required?

[LeeNetworX]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

I'm no techie, but I don't understand how....

Then why are you rebutting almost everything that we (who work in the field) suggest as reasons? You must get off on being obstinate. You ask a question about something you admittedly may not understand and then want to argue with us on our answers. Troll.

[askmrjesus]

Dear Mr. Slice,

We have received several inter-office e-mails, from Mr. Lee and Mr. Dun in the IT Dept.

It would seem that despite our strong suggestion that you get your slacker ass back to work, you are continuing to harass our IT staff, on the subject of e-mail storage, despite having no knowledge of how our servers are set up.

Mr. Slice, we have tried to accommodate your requests in the past. Please remember that Blamo Corp. declared July 14th., "Menudo Day" after constant e-mail barrages from your cubicle. We also installed gluten-free toilet paper in third floor men's room at your request, and lowered the watercooler temperature to 36.5 degrees, to suit the needs of your "delicate stomach".

Frankly, you have become a distraction here at Blamo Corp. The staff is fed up with your constant whining, and most of them hate Menudo.

Please refrain from any further harassment of our IT Dept.

We're watching you.

Blamo Corp. Management.

cc: JC