Hmmm, this is a tough one...

[Particle Man]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...n=ncaaf-wp2673

The Transportation Security Administration identifies many, many official threats to our skies, from contact lens solution to gel shoe inserts to throwing stars. Even in the wake of the "Underwear Bomber," though, boxer shorts have been considered generally safe — unless, that is, as New Mexico safety Deshon Marman discovered Wednesday at San Francisco International Airport, airline personnel can see a little bit too much of them:

On Wednesday, San Francisco police got a call about 9 a.m. that someone was exposing himself outside a US Airways gate, Sgt. Michael Rodriguez said.

An airline employee spotted Marman before he boarded Flight 488, bound for Albuquerque, and complained that Marman's pants "were below his buttocks but above the knees, and that much of his boxer shorts were exposed," Rodriguez said.

The employee asked Marman to pull up his pants before he boarded the plane, but he refused, Rodriguez said. Marman allegedly repeated his refusal after taking his seat on the plane.

"At that point he was asked to leave the plane," Rodriguez said. "It took 15 to 20 minutes of talking to get him to leave the plane, and he was arrested for trespassing." Marman allegedly resisted officers as he was being led away.

Rodriguez told a local TV station that the 5-foot-11, 195-pound Marman, 20, "was not threatening anybody directly," but the airline's dress code forbids "indecent exposure or inappropriate" attire, and "being disruptive" in any fashion once on the plane may interfere with the crew. He was charged with trespassing, battery and resisting arrest, and was being held on $11,000 bail ahead of a scheduled arraignment Thursday afternoon.

Marman's mother told the San Francisco Chronicle that her son was in "an emotionally raw state" after attending the funeral of a recently murdered high school friend on Tuesday, and was targeted by authorities "because of the way he looks - young black man with dreads and baggy pants." She also said that Marman, an incoming juco transfer to New Mexico from the City College of San Francisco, hoped to honor his friend's memory by making it to the NFL. She called him "a good kid trying to make it, and he's going through a lot. And then this happens." For what it's worth, his official New Mexico bio describes Marman as a "true leader with a winning mentality."

Thus ends the initial account of one of the dumbest incidents ever recorded on this site, which is saying a lot. There's plenty to go around. There's Marman, wearing a potentially provocative outfit in a very public place and (allegedly) defying people with the authority to haul him off a plane and into a cell over something as trivial as his pants. There's security, seemingly creating a very real problem with significant consequences from an exceedingly small or nonexistent problem that presented no real threat and could have been prevented much earlier. There's the predictable cesspool of racist comments beneath the story everywhere else it appears Thursday morning on the web.

Personally, I feel a little dumber for having spent a portion of my morning on it, and for actually feeling compelled to offer this parting advice, applicable to any situation you can possibly encounter in life: When in doubt, always pull your pants up.

On the one hand, I feel like adding this one to the "WTF" category for people being asked to leave airplanes (seems there are more and more of these stupid incidents every day)... on the other, I want to go all Dennis Leary and say "PULL UP YOUR FUCKING PANTS"

[RACER X]

Don't like they're rules, don't fly the unfriendly skies

[fasternyou929]

Meh, they asked him to pull up his pants and he refused. It's not as if their request was not unreasonable, there is no reason a grown man needs to walk around in public with his pants "below his buttocks but above his knees."

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by fasternyou929

Meh, they asked him to pull up his pants and he refused. It's not as if their request was not unreasonable, there is no reason a grown man needs to walk around in public with his pants "below his buttocks but above his knees."

I was going to say, these incidents keep coming after people are becoming more unreasonable. That and an unusual level of self-importance.

[the chi]

I actually put this article on my FB page this morning...arrest maybe a lil too extreme, but I'm in the pull your damn pants up category. I HATE that.

Hubby and I were people watching the other day at the mall and apparently security has a policy of kicking these tards out if they keep catching them with their pants down. We thanked an officer for his hard work. I sure appreciate it.

The obvious bias of the writer irks me as well. His getting kicked off the plane and arrested had NOTHING to do with mourning and everything to do with refusing to meet a simple request and follow the rules of the airline.

[fasternyou929]

Originally Posted by azoomm

I was going to say, these incidents keep coming after people are becoming more unreasonable. That and an unusual level of self-importance.

I kept waiting for the punchline: "They disrespected me!"

Originally Posted by the chi

I actually put this article on my FB page this morning...arrest maybe a lil too extreme, but I'm in the pull your damn pants up category. I HATE that.

Once he refused to follow their request, he didn't leave them with much choice but to arrest him. They can't remove him from the plane and let him wander the airport, and they can't toss him out of the airport without some documentation to back up why they did so they can respond to the inevitable backlash/lawsuit.

[Papa_Complex]

I've always considered a certain maxim to apply, in cases like this. "Don't want to be treated like a thug? Don't look like a thug."

[jtemple]

I don't understand why anyone would even want to walk around with their pants like that. Looks uncomfortable as hell, and awkward.

[the chi]

Originally Posted by jtemple

I don't understand why anyone would even want to walk around with their pants like that. Looks uncomfortable as hell, and awkward.

Have you ever really watched them walk?

Theres the "crab sidewise shuffle", the "I'm such a p.i.m.p. I hold my crotch to keep my junk in", and the "cowboy bill spread leg mosey/shuffle".

Im sure there are more, those are just the ones I've got so far.

Originally Posted by fasternyou929

I kept waiting for the punchline: "They disrespected me!"


Once he refused to follow their request, he didn't leave them with much choice but to arrest him. They can't remove him from the plane and let him wander the airport, and they can't toss him out of the airport without some documentation to back up why they did so they can respond to the inevitable backlash/lawsuit.

Makes perfect sense!

[Kaneman]

I think they were well within their rights to remove him from the plane, but arresting him for trespassing is complete BS.