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Old 05-20-2008, 03:40 PM   #1
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Default Group Riding Etiquette (How-To Properly ride in a group)

A post I found on another forum.

Ok boys and girls,
With each ride a leader or leader(s) will be elected. Most often it is whoever posted up the ride to begin with. This person is in charge of choosing a route, and choosing where we will stop for gas and food. Longer rides we may pick up additional riders at other locals. If this is the case that local will be used as a meeting point for anybody who falls behind, gets stuck at a light and the likes. We will do our best to keep the pace down and/or stop and wait for the stragglers at the next Stop sign or safe location to pull to the side.

A group ride with people you have never met before is not the place for you to try something new; for example: drag a knee, wheelie/stunt, go faster than you have ever before. We've all seen it and you wont impress us with anything. Go at your own pace. And for those of us who are seasoned at group rides, NEVER EVER get on someones case for riding too slow. Everybody has their own pace, and if you don't like it safely pass them using the following instructions.


Basic Recommended Gear:
Leather/Textile Jacket, Helmet(duh) and Gloves.
We strongly recommend riding boots and riding pants as well.

Basic Formations:
On highway or any straight road (staggered):


On back roads and when entering a turn:


When Passing a Car:
Speed up to the car, pass and move in front of it by at least 50 feet, give the guy behind you room to get in front of the car also. DO NOT: pass and slow down to the speed of the car at X, this will give the next passing guy no room to come back into the lane, just keep going at least 5-10mph faster than the car (you did pass to go faster). Also don't pass 1 car out of a line of 3, only pass if you can really get ahead and proceed at a faster rate of speed. passing for no reason is just stupid and the group gets all messed up.


Once you've passed:
Use this hand signal to help the next rider pass by indicating he has the clear of way (in other words no on-coming traffic) If you are the rider who is being helped you do NOT have to pass the car unless you feel 100% about it. If you are worried about holding up others behind you let them come upfront and drop back. We do not want anyone to feel pressured into passing.


Move out of the way:
First tell the ride behind you to catch up or get closer, this is also used for any "speed up" situation:


If you feel you want the guy behind you in front for any reason or you simply want to drop back, wave him up:
Newer riders...if you are feeling pressured please signal the person behind you to pass.


NEVER PASS ON THE RIGHT:
The only time is when you have your own lane to do so, DO NOT DO A FLY BY, make the pass easy (5-10mph faster than the other riders).


Speeds:
Even though a ride might be Slow/Mid(5-20mph over the limit), doesn't mean it will always stay that way. Leaders usually know the roads and want to enjoy themselves, thus they might speed up for a turn just to push the bike a little, YOU DO NOT NEED TO FOLLOW ON HIS ASS. If you feel you are going over your head/limits back off, the leader will always wait for you at the next straight away, stop sign or turn. Remember, a group ride is not the place to try something new you have never done before.

Other Hand Signals:
Left Turn:


Right Turn:


U-Turn/Turn Around:


Stopping (Fist at 90 Degrees):


Your High Beams are on or turn signal still flashing (open and close hand repeatedly):


Road Hazard, Debris:
Don't be afraid to signal with your feet.


Slow Down or Bumpy road:


COP/5-0 (tap on helmet):


I Need Food/Drink:
Remember that the group leader typically arranges for stops for Food, but some rides they may not. So come with a full stomach or be prepared to go hungry for a bit. But if you are breaking off the group...let us know by waving goodbye and making this gesture.


I Need Gas (Point at tank):
Remember that the group leader typically arranges for stops for Food and Gas at some point, but if you absolutely cannot wait...this is what to do.


Getting Pulled Over by a Cop:
The Group Gets Pulled Over
Everyone stops. You don't know why, you don't know where you don't know anything!

One Person Gets Pulled Over:
Member X did a wheelie and is now getting pulled over, let him, just continue slow to the next rest area, store, parking lot and wait for him to catch back up. If you are also asked to pull over do so but you don't know why, what, when or how member X did something.

Leaving a Group:
No matter what happens don't just split off and not tell anyone. As part of a group ride you are to double check once in a while on the guy behind you, if you split off the guys upfront have no clue what happened and might think you crashed, turn around, do a search and so on. So never just leave, let someone know somehow that you are splitting off.

Remember to Have fun and be Safe!

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Old 05-20-2008, 03:48 PM   #2
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Great post and always rules to love by when riding with any group!

And never forget, if you dont feel comfortable with the group you are riding with, i.e. too squidly, reckless, etc, you ALWAYS have the right to branch off and leave. Never stay in a situation you feel is not right.
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Old 05-20-2008, 05:08 PM   #3
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I hate when you ride with a group and some people just don't get that once you get into the twisties, you shouldn't be staggered anymore. Having someone running up inside and parking in the corners in a staggered formation scares the shit out of me. I keep waiting for them to push the front and lowside and take me out.

Did I mention it was a busa?
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Old 05-20-2008, 05:12 PM   #4
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when you get into the tight twisties, ROE are pretty much out the door. Ride at your own pace and thats about it. if you dont like being as close to the guy in front of you slow it down, who gives a fuck if you get passed.

The people in the SV rally at the gap were crazy as hell last year, my first ride through it me and DP got caught in a mix of em pretty much riding front to back tire the whole way. Thrilling, to say the least.
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Old 05-20-2008, 09:07 PM   #5
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Riding in the twisties, even with only one or two other riders, you always get caught behind a slow car or SUV. The first rider passes at a straight, and then the second rider passes. Then it's your turn at the next straight and a car is coming in the other direction. The same thing happens in the next straight and then there are no more straights. And the car won't pull over. And your buddies are out of sight. And it's a double yellow. And a state trooper pulls up behind you.....
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:15 PM   #6
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... and you get a flat tire, and a deer jumps out in front of you, and kids are shooting paintballs at you, and the bridge is out ahead, and it starts hailing, and your helmet is suffocating you, and you accidentally just did three hits of acid...
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Old 01-12-2009, 01:09 PM   #7
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i didnt read all the post so i dont know if somebody already mentioned this, but:

If somebody in the group runs from the cops, NOBODY in the group knows who the guy is, hes from another town, etc!!
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Old 01-12-2009, 09:24 PM   #8
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What happened to that guy from who drew the funny motorcycle cartoons that showed the hand signals and whatever...
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Old 05-20-2008, 04:21 PM   #9
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Re-posted on local forum. Great find, Rider. Thanks!
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Old 05-20-2008, 04:30 PM   #10
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Here's our own Group riding Rules, as posted on our local board:

1. We will ride in standard staggered riding formation for the bulk of the ride (exceptions as noted in #7, below). Maintain your lane position, and keep aware of the position of the rider immediately ahead of and behind you.

2. When you change lanes, go to the far side of the lane so someone else can also change lanes. Example: If you are on the left side of the right lane, when you move to the left lane, go all the way over to the left side of the lane.

3. When passing, i.e. passing another vehicle as a group, move to the far right side of the lane (and continue accelerating) so as to leave room for the riders behind you to fall back in line behind you.

4. When coming to a turn on a regular road, drop into a single file line. You should communicate either before the ride or during the ride with the bike beside you about who is going to go first and who will drop in behind.

5. Learn the hand signals. The basic ones that we use are:
- Hand tapping top of helmet: There's a cop.
- Pointing to the ground with hand or foot: There's something in the road on that side.
- Left arm extended and bent 90 degrees with closed fist: We are about to make a
final turn in and stop.
- Left Arm extended and bent 90 degrees with open hand: Right turn.
- Left arm straight out: Left turn.
- Left arm extended out and slightly waving up and down with open hand:
slow down or possible stop.
- Someone flashing all five fingers of one hand at you: you forgot to turn off
your blinker.
- One leg extended to side of bike: That person is about to change lanes in that
direction. (Can be used in conjunction with, but not in lieu of blinkers; acts as
an additional emphasis for blinkers.)
- Pointing to the gas tank: I need gas.
- Pointing to your stomach: I need food.
- Grabbing chest with both hands at a stop: How about Hooter's for lunch?

6. It is not uncool to use your blinkers to change lanes (in fact, it's suggested).

7. When you're on a twisty rode with a group (even just sweepers), ride in a single file line. DO NOT ride above you're skill level! Don't worry if the group pulls away from you - We will stop at the next safe/possible area for the group to catch up, and will do a headcount. Take it easy, we will wait for you.

Single-file riding is also recommended for constuction zones and particularly narrow roads (i.e. residential areas, roads with concrete barrier walls, etc....)

8. Don't go flying by someone at high speed in their lane unless you know them and they have told you that it is ok. Pass in the passing lane/lane to their left.

9. If you want to stunt, please mention this before the ride departure, and do so well behind the group. Please make sure to leave enough room for error between you and the last bike of the pack, and bring your front tire down periodically to check the the status/whereabouts of the pack.

10. When you first ride with a large group or an unfamiliar group, please discuss your skill/experience level with the rest of the group; you might also consider staying in/toward the back until you are familiar/comfortable with the riding speed/style of the group.

11. When the group puts the hammer down and it comes time for you to decelerate, if you don't brake and just let off the throttle, make sure that you tap your brake a couple of times so that the bikes behind you will know you're slowing down.

12. Wear protective gear. At a minimum, you should have a jacket, helmet, gloves, long pants and closed-toed shoes/boots.

13. Make sure your bike is registered and you have a valid license with your M endorsement, etc..

14. Be gassed up when we meet (or if meeting at a gas station, leave time enough to fill up before appointed departure time).

15. While not required, it is recommended to have an Emergency Contact card with all of your contact data as well as that of whom you would like contacted in the event of an emergency.

16. Occasionally when turning across an intersection, one rider might pull out to turn, stopping to create a barrier so cars know to stop and allow the group to turn into the road.. be aware for this.....He/she will then rejoin as the last bike.

17. If you need to/want to leave the ride while in progress (i.e. not at a stop), communicate this to another rider in the group (and make sure they notice) so that we don't double-back to look for you once we've reached the next stopping point.

18. When following, do not focus on person in front of you keep them in peripheral vision and focus ahead (Don't Target Fixate!)

19. Riding while intoxicated/under the influence of drugs or alcohol will not be tolerated. If it is suspected you're impaired at ride-time, you may be asked to not join the ride.


If there is an accident...

A) Don't move the rider unless he cannot breathe, helmet is submersed in water, mud etc.. (helmet came off, something in his mouth).. If he/she must be moved, then keep the neck straight as possible.

B) Know CPR (or make sure at least one rider in the group does).

C) If the rider is impaled on or by an object (i.e. branch), do not pull it out as you may create more bleeding than if you leave it intact.

D) Know basic first-air, and how to use a tourniquet (or make sure at least one rider in the group does).

E) Call 911, just to be safe.

F) Search for emergency card inside jacket inside or under seat.

G) Turn off bike; block lane of traffic/place bike in lanes etc if necessary....

H) Find out where they are taking rider (specifically - not just name of hospital, but location). Make sure you know rider's last name in order to communicate information to others, and to be able to check status.

I) When Law Enforcement arrives at the scene, make sure everyone else is clear on the details of what happened. Enough said.

J) Again, do not remove helmet!! Make sure it goes with them to hospital.
If it is suspected they have suffered a concussion, keep talking to them and make sure they don't move/get up.

K) Use your head. Common sense and a cool head are your best assets in emergency situations.

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