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01-10-2013, 10:22 AM | #1 |
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Our sailors were blue, but now they're kind of a bright yellow-orange...
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Standard-issue Navy uniforms are highly flammable, report shows Published January 10, 2013 FoxNews.com The U.S. Navy’s standard-issue blue camouflage uniforms are highly flammable, according to a recent Navy test, and will melt onto the skin when burning. But that’s not news to Navy brass. The Virginian-Pilot reports that Navy officials released findings of a test in December indicating that its working uniforms are not designated flame-resistant and will burn “robustly until completely consumed” when subjected to flame – unlike the Army and the Marine Corps. "We knew when we designed this uniform that it wasn't flame-resistant," said Rear Adm. John Kirby, the Navy's top spokesman. "When we were making the uniform, sailors wanted a uniform that was comfortable, that didn't require maintenance and would stand up under a lot of washing, and one of the ways to get that is a nylon-cotton blend.” Kirby said there was no requirement for a fire-resistant uniform in a working environment. The Type I NWU -- as the uniform is known -- is half cotton and half nylon. The nylon component "is a thermoplastic fiber that melts and drips as it burns," according to the report. "If this sticky molten material came in contact with skin, it would contribute to increased burn injury,” the report continues. The uniform was never meant to be flame-retardant and there is fire gear throughout any ship in case sailors are exposed to flames. Only sailors with specific jobs such as airman, engineer or firefighter and those in combat are required to have fire-resistant clothing, Navy admirals said. Vice Adm. Scott Van Buskirk, Chief of Naval Personnel and president of the Navy's Uniform Board, announced in a message to commanders last month that working groups have been established to review the fleet's uniform needs and to consider whether these uniforms do the job http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/10...#ixzz2HaBtdk3g
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01-10-2013, 10:54 AM | #2 |
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On another note, I still can't stand the AF's camos. Who came up with that design? They look like pajamas. What were they thinking, that AF personnel would be attacked at airfields and could effectively camoflauge themselves by standing near gray airplanes? Give me a break. Just save some money and give them the same camos the Army uses.
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01-10-2013, 11:02 AM | #3 |
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Most clothing will do this unless you have FR clothing that requires very strict cleaning to maintain it's FR rating. FR clothing is more expensive and unless there is a need for it, I don't see the point in this story.
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Yeah, it's pretty much a non-story. I just thought the image of a sailor in blue camouflage trying to hide on a gray ship then catching fire in a bright orange flame was too hilarious not to share. He won't even blend in with the water, then...
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01-10-2013, 01:44 PM | #6 |
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The only situation where I could see them needing it is if they're being boarded, and exchanging small-arms fire while hiding beind turrets & shit, lol
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01-10-2013, 02:11 PM | #7 |
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On the other hand, the denim dungarees ARE flame-retardant. One of the guys in my unit was sitting on the front of my desk talking with some of the other guys and I put a lighter up to the butt of his blues and it took forever for it to do anything! It turned a greenish color then started to flicker a bit and just as it started to finally catch, he made an amazing sudden leap across the room! No idea why!
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01-10-2013, 04:25 PM | #9 |
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That's why they're flame-retardant and not fire-proof!
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Dude, there are several levels of FR. I am not talking about fireproof as that isnt something we classify. I unfortunately know way too much about this shit because its a huge part of my job as electrical worker. Denim by itself is a very poor material. It needs to be chemically treated to be an effective piece of FR for safety wear.
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