$447 bil

[RACER X]

thats a lot of $ to conjure up outta thin air

extend unemplyment out to 3yrs from 2........'

though on my short stint of unemployment (6 mos) i think the federal $ was like $25/wk if that.

[Hydrant]

But it won't cost us anything.

What a crock of shit.

I am starting to compare Hussein Obama to Punxsutawney Phil. Everytime he gets to the podium we get six more months of recession.

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by Hydrant

Everytime he gets to the podium we get six more months of recession.

[OneSickPsycho]

They should get a bunch of Nintendo DS'...

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Hydrant

But it won't cost us anything.

What a crock of shit.

I am starting to compare Hussein Obama to Punxsutawney Phil. Everytime he gets to the podium we get six more months of recession.

[Homeslice]

Did you notice the Republicans didn't applaud when Obama talked about spending money on schools......Yet they applauded when he talked about spending money on some kind of new job program for vets. But wait, I thought they were against any new spending programs? Oh I forgot, the GOP is programmed to agree with any military-related spending. It makes them appear macho, which helps them get votes from armchair tough guys. So much for Republicans being economic conservatives.

[Smittie61984]

Originally Posted by RACER X

thats a lot of $ to conjure up outta thin air

extend unemplyment out to 3yrs from 2........'

though on my short stint of unemployment (6 mos) i think the federal $ was like $25/wk if that.

Hell, if you make $300 a week and get unemployed and make $250 a week. Why the hell would you get a job? And for 3 years? I wish I was "let go" before I went to full time student. That'd get me through my entire bachelor's. Then use money made on the side to fund my graduate schooling. Sucks going to school 4 days a week and working 2-3 days on the weekend.

Homeslice:
The Republicans don't applaud becuase they know any money for education is not meant for the kids. It is meant for the teachers and their unions but more importantly vote buying. Same for the Republicans and the military. Republicans get more military votes so they want to throw the money that way.

[RACER X]

Originally Posted by Smittie61984

Hell, if you make $300 a week and get unemployed and make $250 a week. Why the hell would you get a job? And for 3 years? I wish I was "let go" before I went to full time student. That'd get me through my entire bachelor's. Then use money made on the side to fund my graduate schooling. Sucks going to school 4 days a week and working 2-3 days on the weekend.

well unemployment doesn't work that way.......its graduated, so the less you make normally, the lower your payment, and it goes up as you make more. and there is a cap, and its state specific. TX is a little over $400, washington state $800.....but to get the $400 or $800/wk, my guess is you have to making over $50k a yr.....

and like i said the Federal part of my unemployment $ was like $25/wk

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Smittie61984

Homeslice:
The Republicans don't applaud becuase they know any money for education is not meant for the kids. It is meant for the teachers and their unions but more importantly vote buying.

So it's not possible that some of the money could be used to actually renovate the schools and buy new equipment?

Oh, and even if the money went towards teacher salaries, that's not a bad thing IF their credentials & performance are monitored. Right now, the best & brightest don't want to be teachers because the salaries suck.

[Smittie61984]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

So it's not possible that some of the money could be used to actually renovate the schools and buy new equipment?

Oh, and even if the money went towards teacher salaries, that's not a bad thing IF their credentials & performance are monitored. Right now, the best & brightest don't want to be teachers because the salaries suck.

The Greeks learned on rock cliffs in the outdoors. Schools should be built pretty much how (or at least last time I was on one) a military base is. Basic boring designs with boring desks and boring everything. Schools shouldn't look like the Taj Mahal.

The problem is that they won't monitor teacher performance. I remember a while back, D.C. offered teachers the chance to potentially make $150k (averging 60-70k then) a year based on performance. The Union wouldn't even let it come to a vote.

Teachers do pretty damn well for themselves. Especially when they take side jobs in the summer. Plus their benefits rival those of CEOs. Really good teachers don't take the job becuase they don't want to bust their asses and do everything they can to help children achieve when they will make less than a sorry ass teacher who sleeps in class because they have seniority.

Education can't be fixed by launching more money at it.