Ya, I held a standard P220. I have a berette 9mm, which I bought because ammo was cheap, but I wanted a .45ACP for a while now. The real fun comes later, with the tactical mods.

Next up is a DE .50. Why? Because I can.

:lol:
Great scene from a movie with so goddamn many great scenes
:lol:

I'd rather have a Beowulf over a DE.50.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUhU-...eature=related

I have a Beowulf and it is a great gun. AA does a great Job. A couple things though, Beowulfs has only one source of commercial AMMO and that Is Alexander Arms they are always slow so unless you are a Reloader it is always a bit of a scramble to get Ammo.. A good round inside of 200 yards it will stop everything that walks on this continent and loaded properly 1/2 of what rolls. The other thing about the Wulf is it is not a take it to the range and away gun it pounds on you. Like damn I hurt, pounds on you.

So did .458 SOCOM and .450 Bushmaster lose out in the big bore AR market?

Bigbore AR15 (45 cal or larger) seem to break out (as far as I know ) as follows

The 450 Bushy (good solid round) has not made much of a dent in the market. Introduced after the Beo and the Socom had established themselves .Commercial Ammo can be challenge (like the Beowulf) and the gun itself is produced by only 1 manufacturer.

The 50 Beowulf, Developed by Alexander Arms, the .50 part of the description grabs everyone's attention and draws in guys like me. When introduced it had the advantage of being a customer ready product. Walk into your LGS put your money down and leave with an Upper and Ammo. The round itself is 12.7x42mm using a rebated rim that uses a mildly modified 7.62x39 bolt. As it currently stands Only Alexander Arms makes the .50 Beowulf. However a few other company's will sell you Barrels , and bolts in the 12.7x42mm caliber (wink wink) Load options, were initially pretty limited but because of the advent of the .500 S&W if you are a home loader you now have lots and lots of options.

The .458 Socom kind of lost out to the glamour of the .50. At its introduction this round one a tough one to get into and if you wanted one you went through custom shops like Tromix to get one or build it your self .But from the outset load options for the 458 were more plentiful. and while I don't own one I believe there a a few companies offering ammo This cartridge is gaining popularity as evidenced by Rock Rivers production of a affordable production carbine and Upper in this caliber.

Keep in mind than none of these rounds are long range cartridges. They all approximate, the old 45/70 round. is they are thumpers that work well inside of 200 to 250 yards.
Personally if I were entering this market today I woud be looking hard at the RR 458

Screw that, if/when I build a .50 cal rifle it will be a long range sniper rifle. Something to make my .338 look like a baby rifle.

For the price of a nice DE, you could get yourself a proper zombie gun, like a .357 Python.

JC

It probably isn't great at shooting any of them, but I do like the versatility of the Taurus Raging Judge as a zombie dispatch tool. The ability to shoot 45LC, .454 Casull for a bigger bang, and .410 magnum for why the hell not just appeals to me.

I get the appeal of the big bang theory, but the .454 I shot, hurt my hand/wrist too much to make it fun.

JC

I've never even shot a .454 but I can understand that. Regardless of how hard it kicks at more than a buck per shot it would hurt my wallet more. That would relegate the .454 to an occasional thing.

If you've shot both how did .454 compare to a .44 mag?

probably something to do with old wounds.

I said i'm getting a DE .50 (The Israeli arms model, with the 10" barrel). Not a pussy .357.

I will be getting a wheel gun though, and it probably will be a .357. But I wanted a DE since I was a child. It's one of those novelty guns that you rarely shoot, but pray somebody breaks into your house so you can see what it really does.

The .44 I shot was a Magna-ported Ruger, and it didn't kick much more than a .38.

:lol:

Hey, if you're happy, I'm happy.

Wait, 10 inch barrel? That's a fucking goose gun. :lol:

JC

I can't answer for him but my experience is if you are shooting full house 454 you want it is a single action frame with a grip designed to roll in your hand. I routinely carry either a S&W Governor or a Performance center Model 29 S&W, even loaded hot neither of them compare to the push back on a loaded 454. I have nothing bad to say about Taurus products but it would be a cold day in Hell before I would light up a full 454 round in a gun with that grip angle or that sticky a grip. I have used my buddies Freedom arms pistol few times for different reasons that is a beast,

True.
I already have a varmint style RRA. If I were to venture into this particular avenue, it would be to build a heavy duty brush gun for putting serious *whump* on angry hogs.
Though, to be honest, I could just buy a Marlin 'Guide Gun' and do the same thing (albeit, not semi-auto or detachable mag) for less money.

Picked up a Taurus PT92 this morning.

Which finish did you get? I love mine. :dthumb:

ONSSP surprised me yesterday with a Mossberg 500! Been wanting a shotgun for a while and she got a pretty good black Friday deal... Stoked!

http://i.imgur.com/mSuRn.png

Awesome!
Last time a girl surprised me with a shotgun, I had to put her TV down and back slowly out of the house.

No No... I don't look the part.
How about:

Last time a girl surprised me with a shotgun, it was so awkward. I totally choked on the hit and my water bottle was already empty. I was known as Chokey Smurf from then on. :rolleyes:

Nah... that doesn't work either.
How about:

Damn... fuckin' envious. I need a girl who surprises me with gifted firearms. redflip

Well I am a sucker. I been wanting a decent range rifle for awhile, but could never really decide on what I wanted. With the climate looking bad, I think I am going to be a sucker and just get one.

I really like the look of the M14, but not sure I want to go that route with springfield m1a.

Get its daddy.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...-59-23_585.jpg

Decided my milsurps really needed to be in a location where people could appreciate them.

Trip, check third down ;)

Nice

Trying to buy a national match version. It's hard to find one of these.

Dude, is that a fucking Hakim?
You really are cooler than advertised.

Yes sir!

Whatta fag! :skep::td:


[sorry envy brings out the worst in me]

My svt40 would look nice up there.

M1a is returning to her case in favor of a nagant 91/30...just as soon as the state gets off their lazy asses for a nics check.

Id love a tok, but they're $$$ around here.

Plan to convert the mn to a pu sniper clone so i can toss on my leshy suit and call myself "the end"

I'd like a Finnish MN but those are too pricey now for what you get.
Also, yeah... SVT-40's are pretty stupid expensive when you can find them for sale.

That just means you need a bigger rack!! :boobs:

I was always fond of the rack he used to have, but I haven't seen hers since the hand bra thread :lol:

Ahh the handbra thread...This place is a ghosttown anymore...Damn shame we couldnt make that a yearly tradition...Lol

Vic was a full b at best, Liz had a narrower frame with full, natural 38dds. Now don't misunderstand, i loved her for her, but damn do i miss her charms (her too, maybe someday)

I'm having trouble visualizing...

:nopicsbs:

That's your thing, man, I just liked drooling over Vic. :wink:

Liz is literally sacred to me, even after all the hell she put me through. Just gonna have to take my word on it :P

we were supposed to hang out soon, I'll mention that you still want her to post up pics. :lol

I don't have anything to add in this thread. Its just that my spidey senses sensed titty talk.
Gentlemen....please proceed.

I bought myself a Christmas present yesterday... a Springfield XD SC 9mm :)

Great gun, I have one as well. Little big for carry, but reliable and accurate.

With the pending insanity caused by Mr.O I jumped a week ago Monday and grabbed this
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...225_150950.jpg
I have enough paper on me I don't figure posting the picture changes my level of exposure. Because of some family medical issues I haven't had any range time yet but it handle sweetly.

Now i'm jealous. I'd looove an fs2000 but the 2k pricetag is a tad too steep

Something tells me nhgunnut gets a volume discount!:lol:

I can only wish I did

Looks kinda like a P90?

Looking for m&p shield 9mm for wide, hard to come by

Good luck with finding a shield they were in High demand before Mr Obama has combined force with Adam Lanza to sell more guns in the last 7 days than in the last 7 months. It is not an exaggeration to say that Because of Mr. Obama, more AR15 have been sold int he last 5 days then Colt sold in the first 5 years of production.

My sister got one of these, pretty nice so far. She had to special order but that was before all the gun control talks.

There's a rumor going around that the Republicans are going to agree to another magazine ban (back to "AWB" 10 round limits) in exchange for keeping the Bush tax cuts for people making 750,000-1,000,000 a year.

Same manufacturer but entirely different, hell to me they LOOK entirely different. I never got why people made that comparison. Mags feed from completely opposite sides...

Have you hung up your shovel? She needs to find out why guns are important. :lol:

LOL... that FB post makes way more sense now...

I need to photoshop it with a guy with a shovel behind her and say "real men use shovels" lol

FTS loose the gutless bitch! After all like my wife and daugters say, You can't beat a woman who shoots.

hmmmm...it is a pricey stock, but don't have to mess with bedding

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3604/jae100darkearth.jpg

How good do you think that shovel is at 800m?

That is awesome! I already have guns and a bike, I guess I just need to get a Porsche to complete the "purchases meant to make you feel like a real man" trifecta!:lol:

Someone as "smart" as her shouldn't need jewelry and hair dye to feel like a real woman.

Because they're both sci-fi looking & shit? Sorry I didn't have a photo in hand when it came to mind.

Hoping pretty damn accurate, probably a ton more than the user of the shovel

I eont know. My uncles brothers third cuz can throw a shovel pretty far and fast two.

Feinstein's Nightmare here.
Here is my small collection of bullpups with an AR fro comparison. I have alway liked the Bullpup concept but being a southpaw has left me at a disadvantage for most of them. Oddly enogh the best trigger in the group is the G22
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...ps0d4771b6.jpg

mission accomplished

http://i49.tinypic.com/119q9w0.jpg

and man they had a SAWEET sig 938 equinox i was eyeballin!

ack

hmmm, guy just listed an benelli M2 for a very reasonable price.

Nice!

I gave up looking and picked up a Ruger LC9 instead.

ordered them for the Shield, got the big dot vs standard size

will be my Z's primary CC and she's not a gun head and has so-so vision (after looking at my ugly mug all the time)

http://xssights.com/index.php?nID=si...ts&sID=handgun

XS Sight Demo II - YouTube

^^ The Bill was introduced yesterday.

I knew ai should have stocked up when botach was having that sale for so long. Wessa gonna have to join the military just to shoot.

getting an Apex trigger kit for the shield now, i'll have more $ in mods then i paid for the gun, lol

i may end up getting a 2nd for myself and do the same mods if i like it enough.

got recommened these mags

just a heads up for some of you...

Found some very high quality Israeli military steel magazines via slickdeals. They are high quality and made for the Israeli military. 19 bucks a piece, use coupon codes: "ARFCOM" first then hit apply for 5% off, then use "FREE-GRND" and hit apply and it will stack the coupons. take the price down to 17.77 per mag shipped. You must spend over 99 dollars to get both coupons to work.

http://www.themakogroup.com/product_p/earm30%20w.htm


http://www.themakogroup.com/v/vspfil...RM30%20W-2.jpg

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Damn, no M1A/M14 mags...

Ok I am just showing off a bit I guess but just got back from a machinist friends home shop. Drill the pin and removed the original muzzle device. Re-threaded a AR15 Muzzle device and here She is. Now wearing a Millet DMS (certainly not a NIghtforce but a good optic for this) and My GemTech Halo. This package handles so much better than any of My ARs with a Can on!
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...105_190705.jpg

Thanks, Ed.

Fun show here was a joke. $75 for mags and a guy wanted $500 for a can of M855

Similar garbage at the one here...

They say "supply and demand", I say "price gouging bastards" :rolleyes:

AIM had m193 in stock @ .39 per round for half an hour yesterday and I forgot my password. Damn it.

I did find another M&P 15-22 at Academy, so now I have at least two of everything I use the most.

Right and pmag hasnt changed their retail price that I know of. I got an order for 4 mags from midway. Just gotta wait.

And hope that no legislation is passed preventing your order from being fulfilled while you wait.

THIS!!

I have a 10 mag order from Botach and a 10 mag order from Intense waiting right now :tremble:

Put 50 rounds down yesterday with the new shotgun... so much fun. Wish they would allow birdshot, slugs and buck is expensive!

How specific are they? You should be able to get away with #4

Why no bird shot?

They are very specific, thought I don't know if they'd come around and pull discarded targets and start measuring... Maybe I'll try that for next time... I did find 00 buck online pretty cheap though... $0.48/rd...

Dunno, never asked. Though I bought some mil-spec Winchester, which is supposed to be junk (but cheap)... was great for shredding paper for fun... BUT... One of the 60 rounds I bought, was actually birdshot... really weird.

I know a lot of ranges won't allow lead shot, for environmental reasons, but I've never heard of one restricting the size of the shot.

Odd.

JC

Any of you guys have experience with add-on recoil pads?

50 rounds yesterday and I'm a little tender today... not a big deal at all, but for $30 or so, I figure why not. Especially when I'm already shopping for a sling and new bead sight.

Seems that the custom fit ones are all pretty comparable, but the slip-on ones are cheaper. Can't really find much on fitment with the slip-on ones... and other than aesthetics, don't seem to be much difference between custom fit and slip-on.

My Tromix saiga has an extra limbsaver on it. I don't think it makes a difference.

I got 4 M1A 20 rd springfield mags for $35 each today at a local dealer. The springfield version runs for $45 MSRP and the CMI ones run for $27 MSRP, seen them as low as $22. So I didn't make out too bad.

FINALLY GOT 308 ammo, I can actually shoot the damn gun finally.

Hmm... I've read nothing, but the complete opposite... and Limbsavers are supposed to be one of the best...

I slipped a Limbsaver on my 91/30 and it helps quite a bit (compared to the metal buttplate digging into my shoulder)

I was told that the spread of smaller shot causes damage to the target hangers, but that could be BS... not unlike the whole thing with FMJ ammo.

I am not sure what you are shooting , but I have found adjust the length of "Pull" Helps as much or more than a a pad. I added 1 inch to My 50 Beowulf and totally change the way it felt to shoot it.

I have a Mossberg 500... basic HD setup, 20" barrel, black and scary, 7 +1...

Like so:
http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server29....1280.1280.jpg

It does feel a little cramped, but I figured that with my limited rifle/shotgun experience it was just unfamiliarity. Maybe I'll get one of the slip on pads and see how it goes... should add a little length and some shock absorbtion.

My local indoor range has the same restriction on bird-shot. I hadn't thought about it till now but, I wonder if there's a greater (real or perceived) danger of ricochet off the target hangers with the smaller shot?

On a side-note, I !finally! got to shoot my new Taurus PT845! It shoots nicely! Unfortunately, the sights are off and the damn set-screw has loctite on it and I can't get it loose! I'm probably going to take it to my local gunsmith since he should have a bit higher-quality allen wrenches and possibly a jeweler's torch to soften it a bit. All my torches are too big!