22LR

http://www.cabelas.com/rimfire-ammun...87&WT.tsrc=AFF

Alright damnit... now I'm officially in the market for a 10/22.

"not available online at this time"

Wouldn't matter if it was. I'm broke until next week!

OSP:
Check out the Marlin XT-22 series. I have the VR which has a bull-barrel and is deadly accurate. They also have a version that is threaded for a suppressor. I got mine on Cheaperthandirt.com for $171 shipped. The only drawback is the most you can get is a 10-rd magazine. No high-cap mags for the Marlins. The XT series is bolt action. If you want a semi-auto, the Marlin model 60 is a great gun and usually cheaper than a 10/22. I'm a bolt-action fan myself.

Lame

Totally Lame...

Uber lame.

just ordered some trijicon sites for my 1911, old ones are not glowing as bright as i want.

Wacha gonna do wit da oldies?

Anyone get a hold of that Tula brassmaxx?

Have ya seen these? They claim to be brighter than trijicon with just a brief charge. The guys on my Taurus forum rave about them. I'll probably get some for mine once I get my sights modified the way I want them.

http://www.nitesiters.com/Nitesiters...ht_Sights.html

Finally found and bought another lower receiver for a somewhat fair price, considering the climate. :/
Stag Arms 5.56/.223

dunno, they say LBC (Les Baer Custom) on the side

1911 novak cut rear
st frt

http://www.shadowopsweaponry.com/pro...r-shdw-15.aspx

150.00 lowers pre sale.

Anyone ever used them before?

there's really not that many producers of lowers, so many are from the same place w/ diff. signage.

i'm seeing more and more ammo on B/O being released, so maybe lowers soon.......

I'm talking about the seller.

I haven't, just stumbled upon that. I might take a chance since they're saying they'll engrave them for free.

sbr?

CBR.

So that tax you pay for having a sbr, is it a one time thing or a yearly tax?

1x tax stamp

whats a CBR?

Ok, I gots questions. I've always been a bolt-action fan so, I don't know very much about the AR-style weapons. From what I understand, the lower is the only part of the gun that is legally considered a firearm and as such, you can order all kinds of variations for the rest of the gun. So, is a stripped lower functional or does it require modification to work? By that I mean, if you add the upper assembly, barrel, etc. will it function?
Also, you mentioned B/O. What is that? What is an SBR? I've always been into guns and the like but, I'm seeing new terms or at least I'm not connecting the abbreviations to the meanings. Thanks!

SBR is short barrel rifle. Any barrel shorter than 16" is an SBR and is taxed.

The lower is the only thing that has a serial on it and it redistered. You can buy as many uppers you want and have shipped to you. Not sure on SBR uppers though. Never owned one.

Here here to Bruce Willis.

http://wtop.com/?nid=893&sid=3219352

STRIPPED lower is JUST the machined body of the lower. No "guts" (trigger, trigger guard, safety, hammer, buttstock...NOTHING.

http://www.impactguns.com/data/defau...ar10_lower.jpg


here is a lower with the trigger, hammer, safety and trigger guard

http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w...ar-build-8.jpg

What you HAVE with a stripper lower though is a NUMBER that's sent to ATF to register that weapon in your name. This is why a lower can not be purchased and shipped to your house. It has to go to a dealer. EVERY OTHER PIECE of an AR can be sent directly to you.

Many people order a stripped lower to BUILD a gun the way they want it.

A mil-spec lower will have a trigger that many feel is inferior and want a custom trigger.

Here is the stock configuration
http://mcb-homis.com/blog/trigger-animation.gif

Many people like a "drop-in" that doesn't require chasing springs all over the place when you disassemble it


I have this one in my AR-10

http://media.midwayusa.com/productim...160/160812.jpg



No...you will need in addition to the stripped lower, the above mentioned items, plus a butt-stock and grip. THIS is an assembled complete lower:

http://www.slickguns.com/sites/defau...64775_zoom.jpg


as far as upper, it's several pieces as well.

Stripped upper:

http://mogunparts.com/media/catalog/...stripped_3.jpg

And inside the upper is the bolt and carrier

http://www.rainierarms.com/img/shop/...2191382ab6.jpg

http://www.brownells.com/userdocs/sc...arrierassy.gif

Then the charging handle...etc

http://media.midwayusa.com/midwayusa...-15/01pg07.jpg

Then you have the barrel and tube

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1...slayoutfl9.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63...6165440679.gif

Like Scott said SBR is short barrel.

You can buy ANY upper you want for that complete lower. But if the barrel is shorter than 16" you have to register it as an SBR. The lower then has to be engraved with ownership information to comply with ATF. City, state and owner. Most people will draft a "trust" so that their information is not directly attached to the weapon.

http://98.130.126.148/images/Trust%20Logo%20Edit.JPG

This trust, as well as ownership information has to be kept with the weapon at all times or you're facing $10k fines, 10 years and permanent revocation of firearms. This goes for suppressors or ANYTHING that can be used as suppressor.

As far as purchasing a shorter than 16" barrel...you can do that all day long, and have it sent to you, but unless you have a registered AR-pistol lower or no lower at all (going to BUILD an SBR eventually) if you have in your possession a shorter than 16" barrel upper, and a AR lower that was originally registered as a rifle, then you better hope to God the ATF doesn't come knocking or you're ever caught with the two anywhere near one another. $10k/10yrs
They're fookin serious about that shit! But DahRELL can have 25 stolen guns in his car and get slapped with a misdemeanor :td:

I'm currently putting together paperwork for suppressor and SBR. And should have both by summer. So this should be fun :rockwoot:

DAMM ^ that looks like alot of work.........lol

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs15/i/20..._by_Aidank.jpg

The AR or the post? :lol

I USE to think the AR was too complicated to bother with. I owned AK's and SKS's out the wazzoo before I ever owned an AR.

To ME, the AK (russian....not the mass produced Afgan model you see blow up in everyones face these days) was the honda CB 750 FOUR of guns. Great outta the box. Don't dick with it, and it'll run forever at it's assigned pace.

The AR was more like a Harley. Simple, yet no one EVER left it alone. And the second you do ONE thing, it's a domino effect and you have to have everything custom, and by the end...you don't have a single piece that is stock, and you're constantly having to dick with it to make it work "right"

But now things are different. One piece drop in triggers, bombproof bolt carrier groups, direct gas kits.

Once you understand an AR it's almost stupid NOT to build one the way you want. But just like a harley you really need to own a few before you realize what you DON'T want or like about them.

SBR, if you buy a complete built rifle (thats my plan) you don't have to have the lower engraved

daniel defense mk18 10.5" barrel

True....because it's registered under it's assigned number AS an SBR. But not many people want to drop $3,000 or better on the purchase at once. It's MUCH more affordable to do so over time.

list = $1709

https://danieldefense.com/rifles/car...sbr-black.html

local place has these in stock

:D

solid weapon too

So realistically, how much could you build an AR yourself for? Seems as if that could be the cheaper route... especially in the long run...

Current prices and if you can find the parts? Who knows.

I put mine together for ~$775, not including magazines, 2 years ago(?).

now is not the time to get into AR's. they are going 2-3x what they should cost.

if you can get the important parts even.

then there's the ammo shortage.

Holy SHIT Ed! :rockwoot: Nothing under $3k on gunbroker right now

I was just curious... ONSSP almost bought me an AR for Christmas instead of the shotgun, but she did right, because I really wanted the shotgun... however, she's mentioned a few times that she should have bought it so we could have sold it and doubled our money... To which I responded, "yeah, but then I'd buy more motorcycle parts and other guns." To which, she responds... "glad you like your shotgun." lol

Thanks for the info! I knew about the short barrel rifle registration but, didn't make the connection with the abbreviation. I never had any interest in AR's. I like things like the Garand. All the accessories are just bulk to me and the gas operated guns are just too damn loud for what they are!

I agree. And I'm in line for an M1 and carbine from my wife's father. :rockwoot:

I'd be all over the springfield if it wasn't so much more expensive. Honestly the day I bought the AR-10, if I had another $600 I would have bought the M1A Socom. Still kinda regret that

www.texastacticalgear.com said they had them in stock 2 weekends ago

also try

www.cypressarmory.com thats where i bought my DD AR

SBR prices have not been effected like reg. ARs

and you wouldn't have to pay any taxes w/ either place.

I have sex with my M1A every night.

Nice to see that some people in Hollywood still have some common sense about them.

right, vs Rambo

Back before prices got crazy you could easily buy kits containing everything except the lower for less than $500 no problem and lowers were available for under $100 (before transfer fees). As an example Del-ton offered a bunch of kits for different configurations, each having a ton of options. There is a link below where you can check them out but everything is out of stock with no backorders.

http://www.del-ton.com/ar_15_kits_s/1.htm

Apparently, Trip is a man of high caliber! .308 to be exact!

just ordered a Raven Concealment holster for my wife's Shield, that i carry.........lol

wtf, 16-18 wks wait

It is not a buyers market on AR's and AK's right meow. Would he nice for tye government to stop paying tgese people off to go on shooting sprees or maybe take the hint that antidepressants do more harm than good.

Even before all this crap, Raven had a loooong wait. It's only gotten worse.

Have you looked at theis holsters? Nice and a bit cheaper than the Ravens although they don't have that tactical look but, when concealing I figure the way it looks shouldn't matter.
I also have a great respect for his attitude towards his product and those who use them.


http://theisholsters.com/

Minotaur FTW

http://www.comp-tac.com/images/Black-MTAC-PN.jpg

http://www.comp-tac.com/product_info...okjq8c2nr3urj2

I do like those!

I've got 2 and have had them for 3 years. LOVE them! Carry all the time with them and have had ZERO problems

hmmm..........integral supressors

talked to the gunsmith at local range, and he said he used to build supr. for houston armory and he could build a integrally supr. 300blk

here's a 12" barrel and 16" barrelled ones

SCHWING!

and only 1 stamp


http://i48.tinypic.com/2rejzsx.jpg

troy, already have IWB, looking for 1 that can either way.

You can get a 14.5" barrel and have a 1.5" flash welded on without having to pay a tax. You get a shorter barrel but of course your still stuck wit 16" overall.

http://m.cnsnews.com/news/article/ca...ghest-gun-laws

Bad news for Californians

These are a very sweet design, anyone run one? I have a blackout I use a YHM can on and it gets heavy fast

http://tacticaltshirts.com/shop/shir...orial-t-shirt/

chris kyle shirt

Looking at them right now, though it doesn't look like they have a model to fit my carry rig. (Kimber Ultra Carry II)

Haven't been too happy with my existing holster.

ETA: Scratch the above. Gave them a call (super cool customer service) and they hooked it up. Have one ordered and on the way.

:rockwoot: They're cool as hell. My PF-9 flat disappears even in shorts. The XD sub grip sticks out but a long shirt covers that just fine, and it's secure enough to run with. I actually was goofing around chasing the kids in the grass and tackled my boy wearing it. Completely forgot I had it on.

I bought four complete polymer lowers last summer @ 109.00 as a hedge in case Obama got reelected. I just got in two complete uppers @ 499.00 each. So 610.00 each for two 5.56 ARs to shoot steel case out of since I'm not going to run that stuff through a 3,000 KAC.

Lowers were New Frontier

http://www.lw15.com/


Uppers were from AIM

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.as...SOTUSTDML16FSB


Yes looking to do an SBR and supressor in 300 blk.

NEWS RELEASE:
02/08/2012 LEANDER, TX.

Updated Policy for State and Local Agency Law Enforcement Sales:

Due to the recent and numerous new Anti-gun/Anti-2nd Amendment laws passed and/or pending across our country, LaRue Tactical has been forced to reconsider how we provide products to state and local agencies.

Effective today, in an effort to see that no legal mistakes are made by LaRue Tactical and/or its employees, we will apply all current State and Local Laws (as applied to civilians) to state and local law enforcement / government agencies. In other words, LaRue Tactical will limit all sales to what law-abiding citizens residing in their districts can purchase or possess.

State and local laws have always been a serious focus of this firm, and we are now dovetailing that focus with the constitutional rights of the residents covered in their different areas by the old and new regulations.

We realize this effort will have an impact on this firm's sales - and have decided the lost sales are less danger to this firm than potential lawsuits from erroneous shipments generated by something as simple as human error.

Thanks in advance for your understanding.

Mark LaRue

Well some of the panic appears to be Ebbing . The Local Gun Store has a couple of DPMS M4orgerys for $925

Natchez has 525 packs of cci blazer in stock.

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...prodID=CC10021

Fuck Natchez, bastards won't ship to Tennessee

I got 5k from another place earlier lol

I have Comptac and looking to purchase another, love them. Not to mention they were great to deal with.

Currently out of stock. Dammit!

Unless you have a NC VA or KY address you can't order it anyway. Natchez won't sell to anyone in TN GA or AL.

Bastards won't compete against the local people the wholesale to....

man, local guy is selling this

374 of 500 made
Texas edition

http://fototime.com/C3345BD11BDBEDF/orig.jpeg
http://fototime.com/D6B7F48AFA23B7F/orig.jpeg
http://fototime.com/EC34C99AE8DF072/orig.jpg

pass

Beautiful. :rockwoot:

Just found this site the other day... not sure if anyone's used it...

http://ammoseek.com/

gunbot is another good one

It's funny cause it's true!

*edit wrong thread*

Press Release: Olympic Arms, Inc. Announces New York State Sales Policy

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Olympic Arms is a staunch believer in and defender of the Constitution of the United States, and with special attention paid to the Bill of Rights that succinctly enumerates the security of our Divinely given Rights. One of those Rights is that to Keep and Bear Arms.

Legislation recently passed in the State of New York outlaws the AR15 and many other firearms, and will make it illegal for the good and free citizens of New York to own a large selection of legal and safe firearms and magazines. We feel as though the passage of this legislation exceeds the authority granted to the government of New York by its citizens, and violates the Constitution of the United States, ignoring such SCOTUS rulings as District of Columbia v. Heller - 554, U.S. 570 of 2008, McDonald v. Chicago - 561 U.S. 3025 of 2010, and specifically the case of United States v. Miller – 307 U.S. 174 of 1939.

Due the passing of this legislation, Olympic Arms would like to announce that the State of New York, any Law Enforcement Departments, Law Enforcement Officers, First Responders within the State of New York, or any New York State government entity or employee of such an entity - will no longer be served as customers.

In short, Olympic Arms will no longer be doing business with the State of New York or any governmental entity or employee of such governmental entity within the State of New York - henceforth and until such legislation is repealed, and an apology made to the good people of the State of New York and the American people.

If the leaders of the State of New York are willing to limit the right of the free and law abiding citizens of New York to arm themselves as they see fit under the Rights enumerate to all citizens of the United State through the Second Amendment, we feel as though the legislators and government entities within the State of New York should have to abide by the same restrictions.

This action has caused a division of the people into classes: Those the government deems valuable enough to protect with modern firearms, and those whose lives have been deemed as having less value, and whom the government has decided do not deserve the right to protect themselves with the same firearms. Olympic Arms will not support such behavior or policy against any citizen of this great nation.

Olympic Arms invites all firearms manufacturers, distributors and firearms dealers to join us in this action to refuse to do business with the State of New York. We must stand together, or we shall surely fall divided.

Sincerely,

Brian Schuetz
President
Olympic Arms, Inc.

Wouldnt a good dent in law enforcement be from a hand gun manufacture?

Magpul’s Open Letter to CO Lawmakers – Pass Gun Control, We Leave & Take Our Jobs With Us
February 11 2013
from → Blog

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Magpul, the maker of one of the most popular AR-15 magazines, the PMAG, along with other AR-15 accessories has posted an open letter to their customers and Colorado lawmakers.

The company basically says if CO passes a proposed law that would ban magazines over 10 rounds in capacity, they would be forced to move their operation to another state in order to stay in operation.

In doing so the company would be taking their tax dollars and hundreds if not thousands of jobs with them (once you take sub-contractors into account).

Bravo Magpul, bravo. They join several companies who have taken a stand recently. This includes LaRue Tactical, who recently announced they would no longer sell rifles to state and local agencies that don’t allow citizens to own those same rifles.

Here is the full letter form Magpul, as posted on their Facebook page:

“In addition to the national battle to protect our firearms rights, many states are currently engaged in their own fights. Here in CO, a state with a strong heritage of firearm and other personal freedoms, we are facing some extreme challenges to firearms rights. We have been engaged in dialogue with legislators here presenting our arguments to stop legislation from even being introduced, but our efforts did not deter those of extreme views.

After the NRAs visit last week, several anti-freedom bills were introduced by CO legislators, and a very aggressive timeline has been set forth in moving these bills forward.

The bills include:
HB 1229, Background checks for Gun Transfers–a measure to prohibit private sales between CO residents, and instead require a full FFL transfer, including a 4473.

HB 1228, Payment for Background Checks for Gun Transfers– a measure that would require CO residents to pay for the back logged state-run CBI system (currently taking 3 times the federally mandated wait time for checks to occur) instead of using the free federal NICS checks.

And finally, HB 1224, Prohibiting Large Capacity Ammunition Magazines–a measure that bans the possession, sale, or transfer of magazines over 10 round capacity. The measures and stipulations in this bill would deprive CO residents of the value of their private property by prohibiting the sale or transfer of all magazines over 10 rounds. This bill would also prohibit manufacture of magazines greater than 10 rounds for commercial sale out of the state, and place restrictions on the manufacture of military and law enforcement magazines that would cripple production.

We’d like to ask all CO residents to please contact your state legislators and the members of the Judiciary Committee and urge them to kill these measures in committee, and to vote NO if they reach the floor.

We also ask you to show your support for the 2nd Amendment at the Capitol on Tuesday, Feb 12, for the magazine ban committee hearing and Wednesday,
Feb 13, for the hearing on the other measures.

Due to the highly restrictive language in HB 1224, if passed, and we remained here, this measure would require us to cease PMAG production on July 1, 2013.

In short, Magpul would be unable to remain in business as a CO company, and the over 200 jobs for direct employees and nearly 700 jobs at our subcontractors and suppliers would pick up and leave CO. Due to the structure of our operations, this would be entirely possible, hopefully without significant disruption to production.

The legislators drafting these measures do so in spite of the fact that nothing they are proposing will do anything to even marginally improve public safety in CO, and in fact, will leave law-abiding CO residents less able to defend themselves, strip away rights and property from residents who have done nothing wrong, and send nearly 1000 jobs and millions in tax revenue out of the state.

We like CO, we want to continue to operate in CO, but most of all, we want CO to remain FREE.

Please help us in this fight, and let your voices be heard!

We have included the contact information for the House Judiciary committee for your convenience:

hmmm.....

Who is that? Why did they get shot and what caliber?

local bike guy. sounds like other guy is dead.

my guess is he got hit by 9mm (non-hydro-shock style)

he hasn't given his story yet, i imagine there's a police invest. going on, so prob. better not to say anything.

his current arsenal and fabulous rug, lol

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/06/ygy7ahed.jpg

damnit.........it was gallbladder removal.........lol

Hahaha. My dad has a bunch of scope incisions on his stomach.

If there's a bandwagon.....which looks like is starting, Magpul, Olympic Arms, LaRue Tactical


http://www.ma-rooned.com/2013/02/is-tide-turning.html



http://www.yorkarms.com/ny.html

Love it.

Wow. Olympic is pissed.

Response to the FOP after a request for advertising in their rag:

UPS dropped off a new spikes dissipator upper today.

Print your own mags

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/02/...-new-gun-laws/

Someone posted that here like 2 months ago. Was probably Ed.

http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/0...2nd-amendment/

http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/Sniper.jpg

Eh. I doubt if tyere was a guy around with a gun, it would have stopped. Im sure he just grabbed tye gun and shot. Two - three seconds top?

Okay , so I saw this a while back and the goofy color on the grips put me off but I loved the action. My wife got it for me as a Valentines Present/ First the magic box it came in/
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...ps829715cc.jpg
Here she is in all of her goofy colors and I love it!
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...ps5d61b3cd.jpg
Performance Center S&W 45 1911 C. I will probably wring it out tomorrow.

Man that's nice. Off to see if they make it in 9mm.

Been thinking about a PMR30 as a plinker handgun...

Anyone with any experience...

30 rounds of 22 mag sounds like a lot of fun.

http://www.keltecweapons.com/uploade...6dcdf9PMR4.jpg

I just fondled one the other day. They feel cheap and thinness feels more like holding a Hershey bar than a pistol grip. Suppose one could get used to it.

First of all, good luck finding one! They originally were $299 but, everybody bought them up and the cheapest I saw them anywhere was around $600 on gunbrokers and this was months before all the crap happened! I've been on Bud's email list for about 6 months or more waiting for one!
Second, if you do happen to buy one, make sure to get a second-gen. The second-gens have a standard barrel and the first-gens have a fluted barrel. The fluted barrels were keyholing with certain ammo. The standard barrels don't seem to have that problem.
I would have bought one myself instead of my Taurus PT845 but, I'm not paying that much for that gun! There are some good videos on youtube of them. Most seem to be positive.

I used a buddies for a day while he tried out my 5n7. Like most things KelTec it is a wonderful concept that somehow just misses the mark. First it ran flawlessly so it can't be faulted there and it printed pretty good groups. Unfortunately the groups were no where near where the sight picture indicated they should be at 25 yards it was a full foot to the right with no means of further correction. I mentioned this when we swapped back and he said he had been trying to contact KelTec to replace the sight. If you can find one that the sights are near where you want them it could be a lot of fun. If I could find one at retail I would take with the idea of mounting a FastFire or micro sight of some kind. Unfortunately the only place I see them is on GunJoker with prices that are INSANE.

That's disappointing. I could probably get one for the standard price, might take a bit to get it, but it doesn't sound like it's worth it.

I've owned several Kel-Tec's

Initially it was the draw that the 9mm would use the same hi cap mag as a S&W. The goal was for it to be a backup weapon for police officers issued a 9mm S&W.

The problem was they were always sub-par in their MFG. Every one they made needed a little tweaking to work right. They dubbed it the Kel-Tec "fluff and buff"

You polish the ramp and a few key parts and you won't get a jam.

This carried on to later 380, 32, and other 9mm's


I polished my PF-9 and I know it really likes +p ammo. And with that, I never have a jam. But I'm limited to ammo I can reliably use in it.

The 22 seems to have the same "quirks" and it has equally as many fans as it does haters.

I'd LOVE if they made a 22 long version just for a hi-cap suppressed option

got my D&H mags from PSA
picked up 100rds 9mm at wally world

picked up 250rds 9 and 250 45 , fri at freedom munitions, didn't mean too, just did a ride by and there was a line so i had to see what they got in, lol

dropped off my 45 to get new sights on her

There was a release from Kel-Tec they were planning on making a .22lr version but, I'll be surprised if they do. The .22mags are long enough to stack more stable but, .22lr's will curve a lot at anything above 12 rounds. If they could come up with a double-stack of 24 rounds or even 20 rounds, that would be nice. Large calibers are great fun but, unless you're made of money, you've always got that register running in the back of your head keeping a running total of what it just cost you to make it go bang that many times! With .22, you can shoot all day for cheap. Well.....you used to be able to. Now you can't find the stuff!